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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:40 pm
by Tadpole
Good-bye KG.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:40 pm
by vonkaar
Hmm... yeah... that trade is bigger =p.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:47 pm
by Xaiveir
Blockbuster trade shakes the foundation of the NT basketball league!

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:17 am
by Rzail
Shopping McGrady...wtb PG/C...

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:12 am
by vonkaar
I'm willing to move Ilgauskas for a T-Mac trade, but most of the scenarios I'm seeing aren't worth it for me. Personally, I consider Ilgauskas the #1 center in the league - so far. I'm hoping that Shaq will come back soon... but as of now, Big Z is performing better than any other center.

I made an offer of mobley+Z for TMac+Fortson... but I ran numbers afterwards and it wouldn't help me at all... even if Tmac was only trade-bait, which would be a gamble.

If you want to do something like Z+Willie Green or Devin Harris for T-mac, let me know... I just don't think it's worth it to move 2 of my top stars to get an injured player and a halfway decent guy.



Also... for everyone else, I'm still betting STRONG on Shaq, so... if anyone wants to entertain me with offers for Ilgauskas - feel free. I'm also willing to move Artest and Mobley. So... for you people that are struggling from your Center spot and have loads of forwards/guards... look me up.

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:42 am
by Rzail
vonkaar wrote:I'm willing to move Ilgauskas for a T-Mac trade, but most of the scenarios I'm seeing aren't worth it for me. Personally, I consider Ilgauskas the #1 center in the league - so far. I'm hoping that Shaq will come back soon... but as of now, Big Z is performing better than any other center.

I made an offer of mobley+Z for TMac+Fortson... but I ran numbers afterwards and it wouldn't help me at all... even if Tmac was only trade-bait, which would be a gamble.

If you want to do something like Z+Willie Green or Devin Harris for T-mac, let me know... I just don't think it's worth it to move 2 of my top stars to get an injured player and a halfway decent guy.



Also... for everyone else, I'm still betting STRONG on Shaq, so... if anyone wants to entertain me with offers for Ilgauskas - feel free. I'm also willing to move Artest and Mobley. So... for you people that are struggling from your Center spot and have loads of forwards/guards... look me up.



T-Mac for Z...hehe. T-Mac a proven SUPERSTAR for Z who is proven that he is injury prone :)

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:53 am
by vonkaar
That's sort of gambling my whole future on two players recovering from injuries... Shaq and T-Mac...

let me call and get a 2nd opinion.

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:59 am
by vonkaar
Alright, that's fine.

Let it be known that on this day, Vonkaar is making the 2nd 'big' gamble of the season. The Stephen Jackson for Josh Howard was my first one and it looks like it was a bad one. Hopefully I'll have better luck on this.
please heal up t-mac!

If Ilgauskas has another 33point 18rebound game... EVEN ONE... I'm going to change your NT name to "Rzail DoggyHumper".

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:06 pm
by Rzail
vonkaar wrote:Alright, that's fine.

Let it be known that on this day, Vonkaar is making the 2nd 'big' gamble of the season. The Stephen Jackson for Josh Howard was my first one and it looks like it was a bad one. Hopefully I'll have better luck on this.
please heal up t-mac!

If Ilgauskas has another 33point 18rebound game... EVEN ONE... I'm going to change your NT name to "Rzail DoggyHumper".



Sorry, I guess my communication skills need some work ( Basically, what I wanted to say was...no way in hell will I make that trade straight up. I know how u looking at it...Z as one of the best centers for one of the best SG's. We do KNOW that T-Mac WILL put up SUPERSTAR numbers, day in and day out. Z on the other hand, will not.

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:26 pm
by vonkaar
Alrighty... probably safer for me anyway =p. I thought you were trying to sell me on the trade.

You value T-Mac way too much... he's already made the 'bust guard' list on one fantasy list. He's not working out under Van Gundy's new system... but then, Yao isn't either. That whole team is confused. He's not even a top ten player this year... I'd put several players over him ... TD, KG, Dirk, Shaq, Dwayne, LBJ, Kobe, RJ, Elton, VC, Baron, Franchise, AI, ... hell, he's probably not even a top 15 player... 'yet'.

You said you were looking for PG/C. What PG would fit the bill? Billups, Francis, Davis, Bibby and Wade are all going to have better numbers than T-Mac... and I have the top two centers atm...

Three of your top 4 players are all on the injured list... you need immediate points or you'll soon end up on the bottom. Calling Ilgauskas injury prone is laughable. Since December 2001, he's only missed 2 games. T-Mac, on the other hand, has missed 82 games in 7 years. I doubt you'll ever get what you think he's worth... no Kobe, Dirk, TD, KG or top PG... If I had T-mac, I'd be thrilled to trade him for VC or RJ. In 2004, Kobe for T-mac was even. In 2005, T-Mac has half the value of Bryant.

I don't get what you are expecting out of people in trades...

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 2:32 pm
by Rotj
vonk, is D.Harris in Nelly's doghouse or is it just the rookie precautions? He seems to be dipping in minutes now. That sucks if he is in the pits with Nelly..cos I needed him to step it up for my other team.

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 2:46 pm
by vonkaar
It's just an even split between he and Terry. Terry had a lackluster game tonight... I think Harris will start getting more and more minutes. He's more of a 'last half of the season' player anyway. He'll be huge after the all-star break =p.

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:07 pm
by Rotj
Woot! Here's hoping.

Rz, sorry dude, but I agree with vonk about T-Mac. He's got superstar appeal but his numbers are now only starish. If this was 'Fantasy sell courtside seats'..he would be a top #5. His health makes him far too unpredictable unfortunately. I wouldn't even trade RJ now for him mainly cos of Kidd being out till December. Comparing the numbers with Z..they would be about equal. I think Silas knocked some sense into that big oaf.

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:39 pm
by vonkaar
RJ has to be the most under appreciated player in the league... he and Elton anyway. They just show up, put up the big numbers, and go home. No whining about trades... no whining about who they want on their team. They are simply 'great' players.

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:00 am
by Malluas
elton is playin hurt so he isn't doing as well but he is still near a double double every night.

tonight.. 11 points 9 rebounds 6 assists 3 blks :)

Wilcox imo is a surprise.. 14 points 10 rebounds tonight... :)


And i want to thank Marbury ... finally my team has a 35+ point scorer! :)

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:41 am
by Arlos
Unfortunately, Jones hasn't been doing nearly as well for me as I'd hoped. Niether, for that matter, has Tony Parker. If he keeps up his string of insanely sub-par games, I'm a-benching his ass.

-Arlos

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:47 pm
by Tadpole
I'm glad Chris Kaman, Ron Mercer, and Allan Houston are all hurt.


:cry:

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:53 pm
by Rzail
Tadpole wrote:I'm glad Chris Kaman, Ron Mercer, and Allan Houston are all hurt.


:cry:


Not as happy as I am with McGrady, Finley,Kidd being hurt.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:34 pm
by Zanchief
vonkaar wrote:Personally, I consider Ilgauskas the #1 center in the league - so far. I'm hoping that Shaq will come back soon... but as of now, Big Z is performing better than any other center.


vonkaar wrote:Sorry... I know Z is ranked high but I have no respect for him (watch him explode this year...)

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:19 pm
by vonkaar
crazy huh?
It's amazing what a few games can do =p. But then, I didn't have League Pass last year and only caught a few Eastern Conf games.

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:33 am
by Malluas
you kno my most happiest thing this year in the NBA is grant hill.. i always pull for him and he is finally healthy (knock on wood). He is a guy who i hoped would be a hall of famer.. he won't be now cause of 4 years missed ( i think something like 50 total games played in the last 4 years)i always root for dukies... just cause they have had a hard time till Maggette Brand and Grant (until the injuries)

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:44 am
by Malluas
BTW VONK.... is yahoo just having a prob updating? Cause i didn't get credit for Mo Taylors stats for tonights game yet (aka they aren't showing up) i don't want to not get his 12 points 5 rebounds and 3 assists :)

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:39 am
by Rotj
Yahoo had a problem updating the stats live but they are recorded and updated now.

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:27 am
by Malluas
everyone check out Nash's line tonight i was like OMG triple double then.. hehe look at TOs

whoever has marion, amare, and nash cleaned up including me with Richardson.. 18 points 13 rebounds

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:09 pm
by Zanchief
Now that Amare is center eligible I'm trading Dampier. I dont care about his day to day injuries so dont offer me crap in return. I'm looking for FT% and 3PM/3P%.