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Re: HD vs Blu-Ray

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I've stated all along that I don't have physical media, but rather all digital versions

I've got a fair bit of 1080p stuff



my point is that you're a hypocrite for looking down on someone else's 1080p setup when you're watching watching 720p stuff at a distance that's less than optimal for resolving even all of that resolution
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Tikker wrote:I've stated all along that I don't have physical media, but rather all digital versions

I've got a fair bit of 1080p stuff


That's great, thanks for sharing. So what the fuck are you doing in the HD media thread then?

Tikker wrote:my point is that you're a hypocrite for looking down on someone else's 1080p setup when you're watching watching 720p stuff at a distance that's less than optimal for resolving even all of that resolution


I'm not looking down on anyones anything or comparing my setup to anyone elses.

Resolution isn't everything in the movie viewing experience especially when the screen is too small or you are sitting too far away, you know this as well as I do.

Quit being a douche.

PS. I am sitting right in the sweet spot at home but the minimal gain between 720p and 1080p is not worth the upgrade price. Maybe in a few years.
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My 61 inch Sony TV and PS3 and all my glorious upcoming Blu-ray high def movies from all studios wtfpwns your upconverted wannabe betamax setup, bitch! :afro:

In all seriousness, I think Toss had made some good points, but I don't think there is a huge difference between HDDVD and BR. I do however prefer Bluray for consumer reasons. I wouldn't have lost any sleep if HDDVD won, but the lesson here is the same lesson from the 80s, regarding studio support for future formats.

I do think BR will become the next de facto PC storage media and media of choice for most things, be they PC, Apple, or High Def movies. I'm personally glad of that, and given the good new PS3 games and FREE online play, I like my setup and how it'll work into the future, especially with my netflix membership.
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Lyion wrote:My 61 inch Sony TV




would look like a postage stamp next to my godlike wall of HD goodness.
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Sadly, with no BR player you can't get new HD movies. :(

With deals, you can get a 40 Gig PS3 for about 350 bucks! Turn to the dark side!
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Lyion wrote:Sadly, with no BR player you can't get new HD movies. :(

With deals, you can get a 40 Gig PS3 for about 350 bucks! Turn to the dark side!



I can get HD on demand, through LIVE, DVD's and still have 400 HD DVD's to choose from which is good enough til BR spec is finished and cheap enough.
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I wonder if you could buy BR disks. Convert them to HDDVD and burn your own? Stick it to the man!
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Naethyn wrote:I wonder if you could buy BR disks. Convert them to HDDVD and burn your own? Stick it to the man!


Well, you'd need a Blu-ray player to do the conversion so what would be the point?

Also, the HD DVD media are discontinued. It is a dead product.
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One never knows with you, sir. :alien2:
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Re: HD vs Blu-Ray

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Tossica wrote:i'm not looking down on anyones anything or comparing my setup to anyone elses.


Tossica wrote:
Griever wrote:My new Vaio laptop came with a blu-ray player, so I'm happy.




Yay. Blu-Ray movies on a 15" screen...




Tossica wrote:Lyion wrote:
My 61 inch Sony TV




would look like a postage stamp next to my godlike wall of HD goodness.




if you say so hypocrite

i mean really, congrats on blowing up your 1/2 way HD to huge size just so you can see how shitty it looks compared to every one else's HD

I proud of you for paying bargain basement prices for legacy substandard HD equipment

grats
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Tikker wrote:
i mean really, congrats on blowing up your 1/2 way HD to huge size just so you can see how shitty it looks compared to every one else's HD




Haha, I guess that's one ignorant little internet mans way of looking at it. I don't think many other people would agree though. A10 has watched a movie at my place pre HD DVD and even then it was pretty kick ass.

Again, there is more to home theater than resolution but you can't help but be a douche.
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so what are you trying to say, that there's no difference between 720p and 1080p?

or do you just want to duck that one again?
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Tikker wrote:so what are you trying to say, that there's no difference between 720p and 1080p?

or do you just want to duck that one again?



No.... not really. I'm not sure how you deduced that from my post. 480p source looks fantastic on my TV. 720p looks amazing and I'm sure 1080p would be even better but not worth spending $2500 on as the visual difference would be marginal at best on all but a handful of the most pristine transfers

The fact that you consider anything less than 1080p to be an inferior picture based on that alone is ignorant. So much more goes in to the overall viewing experience. Color balance and accuracy, contrast ratio, black level, etc.

Of course, you know all of this though, you just can't stop with the douchecraft.
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Tossica wrote:[
The fact that you consider anything less than 1080p to be an inferior picture based on that alone is ignorant. So much more goes in to the overall viewing experience. Color balance and accuracy, contrast ratio, black level, etc.

Of course, you know all of this though, you just can't stop with the douchecraft.


seriously, stop being stupid

if you're going to run a serious 1080p setup, you're going to also look at colour balance, accuracy, contrast, black levels etc etc etc

yes, a finely tuned 720p setup is going to look better than a shitty 1080p setup, no contention there

but a finely tuned 1080p setup is going to make a finely tuned 720p setup look like shit

that's the whole point
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Tikker wrote:but a finely tuned 1080p setup is going to make a finely tuned 720p setup look like shit

that's the whole point



No, it won't. 99% of the population will not be able to tell the difference.

FACT.
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All Television HD broadcasts are coming over at 720p anyway for the forseeable future, right?

So the only people noticing a gain from 1080p sets anyway are HD movie watchers and games developed for 1080p if I'm not mistaken. Also the ones using the higher resolution for PC displays.
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Reynaldo wrote:All Television HD broadcasts are coming over at 720p anyway for the forseeable future, right?

So the only people noticing a gain from 1080p sets anyway are HD movie watchers and games developed for 1080p if I'm not mistaken. Also the ones using the higher resolution for PC displays.


True sorta, some are in 1080i but on demand movies, etc are 720p. To really get the benefit of 1080p over 720p, you need a large (50"+) screen and need to be sitting no further than 8-10ft away and at that distance it's going to be barely noticable. If you are 5ft away, the resolution should be noticable but the quality of the transfer to BR or HD DVD is a huge factor as well. Many HD discs don't look much better than their SD versions. Sad but true. Shitty transfers and overly "soft" source material make for lackluster HD content.

Most games are not actually 1080p on either console BTW, they are upscaled.
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Once Tossica is able to afford a better projector or is able to get some sort of retarded deal on a 1080p projector he will sing its praise like it's the messiah coming to save us horrendus video quality.
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Jay wrote:Once Tossica is able to afford a better projector or is able to get some sort of retarded deal on a 1080p projector he will sing its praise like it's the messiah coming to save us horrendus video quality.


True. I'd love to have one and will some day, I'm sure. It's just not worth $2500 to me which is about what it would cost to replace my current projector right now.

My 22" monitor is 1080p but I'm sure not blown away by the viewing experience because the screen is too small to be fully immersed in and watching movies on a PC is ghey.
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I'm the Idiot Who Bought an HD-DVD Player

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i saw them for 150.00 yesterday at fry's....

and then i saw a combo dvd/hddvd/bluray for 750.00

i'm just saying.
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    Yeah, the A35 which has 5.1 analog outs is around $150 these days... crazy. That's a really nice player.
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    Tossica wrote:
    Tikker wrote:but a finely tuned 1080p setup is going to make a finely tuned 720p setup look like shit

    that's the whole point



    No, it won't. 99% of the population will not be able to tell the difference.

    FACT.



    so why the fuck do you give a shit about hd dvd or blu-ray?

    are you one of the mystical 1%?

    you're so full of shit it's not even funny
    why the fuck were you championing a new format when you supposedly "knew" that no one was going to be able to resolve the difference anyways?
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    This thread is going on? Even Bloodberri let it die a while ago.
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