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Narrock wrote:

Ginzburgh wrote:If that's the case, Mindia is a poor excuse for a republican.

I'm not a Republican, and I make good money.

you're a truck driver with a mail order diploma

no, you don't make good money

Jesus thinks I am cooler than Mindia.

do-whatever-you-want-as-long-as-it-makes-you-happy

Actually, I don't support that either, and I think I hold the title of resident liberal around here.

What would be a FAR more accurate quote would be the following:

Do whatever you want, as long as it makes you happy and doesn't hurt anyone else.


Someone smokes pot, and at the same time owns his own house here in Silicon Valley and holds down a job with a > 6 figure income, who exactly is he hurting by smoking pot? I'm not Christian, so I don't see any particular reason why 2 people of the same sex who love each other (or who lust for each other) shouldn't be able to be together and be happy. You want to watch TV/Movies, play video games or listen to music of whatever kind you freely choose as an adult, feel free.

The moment your fun harms other people though, that's where it has to stop. Personal responsibility is never something that you can toss aside, it's always got to be present. But even if what you're doing is harming YOURSELF, it's still your body, your life, and the government should have no right to gainsay you.

-Arlos

The only issue I have with letting people do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt others is that people, generally speaking, are too irresponsible to handle such freedom. Or, perhaps, just too damn selfish to care about the ramifications of their actions on others. Because of this, I can't help but keep a skeptical eye on this subject.

As far as issues such as gay marriage. Quite honestly, I think homosexuality is gross... however, it's not my place to tell two consenting, intelligent adults what they can and cannot do in the privacy of their home. Is it an issue, we as a country, really need to worry about? Fuck no it isn't. With all the bullshit going on in our society - jobs, education, crime - why in the fuck are we even wasting a single second debating the merrits of gay marriage?

As for drugs. Yes, weed SHUOLD be LEGAL, it's absolutely rediculous that it isn't. However, hard drugs SHOULD remain illegal. That's just my opinion.

Tikker wrote:

Narrock wrote:

Ginzburgh wrote:If that's the case, Mindia is a poor excuse for a republican.

I'm not a Republican, and I make good money.

you're a truck driver with a mail order diploma

no, you don't make good money

You stated some time ago that you make $55k/yr. as a cell network builder. I make more than that driving a truck with a "mail order diploma" as you state.

ohh yeah welllll I make over 90 a year PLUS 10% annual bonuses.... is THAT good money?

By the way my is bigger than Jays so I doubly win. ha.

Diekan wrote:ohh yeah welllll I make over 90 a year PLUS 10% annual bonuses.... is THAT good money?

By the way my is bigger than Jays so I doubly win. ha.

Narrock wrote:

Tikker wrote:

Narrock wrote:

Ginzburgh wrote:If that's the case, Mindia is a poor excuse for a republican.

I'm not a Republican, and I make good money.

you're a truck driver with a mail order diploma

no, you don't make good money

You stated some time ago that you make $55k/yr. as a cell network builder. I make more than that driving a truck with a "mail order diploma" as you state.

scales of economy you stupid fucker

where I live, a 3 bedroom 1200sq ft house with a garage costs under 100k

ps, when manage to hold down your current job for a full year, THEN you can talk about how much you make~

What part of the big picture am i missing ? Life is way too short to not do what makes you happy. So if your not hurting anyone and meeting your obligations to society than where is the problem. No emot cons dont ignore me go ahead and let me know. Bonus points if you can tell me whats wrong with doing as you please without using religion.

arlos wrote:
Do whatever you want, as long as it makes you happy and doesn't hurt anyone else.


Someone smokes pot, and at the same time owns his own house here in Silicon Valley and holds down a job with a > 6 figure income, who exactly is he hurting by smoking pot?

allowing people to randomly break laws that they don't agree with personally is just wrong

doesn't matter how stupid you personally think the law is, it's the law

if you want to do something about it, run for office
until then, obey the law, or get shot in the face

When the law is wrong and you dont have the lobby $$power $$ to change it what can you do?

spazz wrote:When the law is wrong and you dont have the lobby $$power $$ to change it what can you do?

word on the street is you vote for the other guy, or run for election yourself

look im not saying dont try to change or its impossible. Im saying without a lot of ca$h its hard to make changes happen. Now ad to that huge oppisition from people that dont want that change and you really got a problem. As for voting for the other guy the other guy if hes not in the 2 headed snake party will have a hell of a time winning.

spazz wrote:look im not saying dont try to change or its impossible. Im saying without a lot of ca$h its hard to make changes happen. Now ad to that huge oppisition from people that dont want that change and you really got a problem. As for voting for the other guy the other guy if hes not in the 2 headed snake party will have a hell of a time winning.

your other option is to quit being a whiney bitch and move to a country where your activity of choice isn't illegal

Mindia,

I do understand adventism. Which is why I say you guys are missing the forest for the trees.

where I live, a 3 bedroom 1200sq ft house with a garage costs under 100k

/sigh...sometimes I wish I was born elsewhere. I'm looking at houses now, a 1200sq ft with a garage and three bedroom in a decent neighborhood = $300k at a minimum.

Ginzburgh wrote:

where I live, a 3 bedroom 1200sq ft house with a garage costs under 100k

/sigh...sometimes I wish I was born elsewhere. I'm looking at houses now, a 1200sq ft with a garage and three bedroom in a decent neighborhood = $300k at a minimum.

300k here gets you a house with 3000+ finished square feet and a 1/2 acre to sit on. Move sir, move.

Ginzburgh wrote:

where I live, a 3 bedroom 1200sq ft house with a garage costs under 100k

/sigh...sometimes I wish I was born elsewhere. I'm looking at houses now, a 1200sq ft with a garage and three bedroom in a decent neighborhood = $300k at a minimum.

Getting to be the same way here.

300k here will be enough for a down payment.

300k here gets you a house with 3000+ finished square feet and a 1/2 acre to sit on. Move sir, move.

Nah, I see no point in moving away from my life, work, family, friends and home for a cheaper mortgage payment. I'll just suck it up

Yeah, sucking is the one thing you're actually good at.

Yeah, sucking is the one thing you're actually good at.

Oh so I made fun of treadmills and now Diekan is going to stalk me in every thread.

P.S. You're bald

I win Costanza.

hahaha

do what you want as long as you dont hurt others isnt a liberal tennant
it used to be a republican tennant before the religeous wrong took over

the idea of life liberty and pursuit of hapiness are ideals that harken back to our hemp growing founding fathers

the people who want to impose christian values tend to forget that there is a very good reason we dont have a state religeon in the united states

liberal idealogy such as it exists today is actually socializm where the government takes care of people because the people are too stupid to take care of themselves

the current conservative idealogy is the government takes care of people that promote a healthy economy (the rich) and hang the rest

both are wrong