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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:48 pm
by Arlos
How is saying "Merry Christmas" ignoring Hannukah?
Well, it doesn't mention Hannukah, does it? No, neither I nor most other people are going to be even remotelyh offended by you telling me "Merry Christmas". Hell, my parents tell me that, though they know I'm not Christian any more, and I either say it back to them, or give them my own Happy Yule.
But what's so wrong in being INCLUSIVE at this time of year, when SO MANY religions have holidays? Happy Holidays includes Christmas, so you're getting your greeting. It also includes all the other festivals too. I certainly don't want stores to take down Christmas decorations, but why shouldn't I get to have my celebration recognized, if even in a generic fashion by "Happy Holidays"?
Also, if you read what I said, I'm in complete agreement with Ben Stein about displaying the Nativity, or the Manorah, etc, as long as they're on private property. You want to put up a nativity on your lawn, by all means, do so, and I'll defend to the hilt your right to display it. It's solely display as a government function that I have an issue with, and it's an issue I'd have with any religious display of any religion: christianity, judaism, shintoism, paganism, zorastrianism, whatever.
-Arlos
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:19 pm
by Zanchief
Mindia, BestBuy is doing this because they think it's what people want to hear. It has nothing to do with lawsuits.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:42 am
by Yamori
Hannukah seems pretty gay. :/
A lamp stayed lit for 8 days 2000 years ago! WOOT! USA USA! #1!!!
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:51 am
by Tikker
Markarado wrote:Arlos, you're simply making an idiot of yourself. Christmas originated as a Christian holiday.\
no it didn't sparky
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:59 am
by Tikker
Narrock wrote:I don't advocate retailers ignoring Hannukah. How is saying "Merry Christmas" ignoring Hannukah? I just heard a talk show last night where dozens of Jews called in to say that they love Christmas and will even say "Merry Christmas" back to somebody who says it to them. Those are real people.
so how does "Happy Holidays" translate to an attack on christianity?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:13 am
by Narrock
Tikker wrote:Narrock wrote:I don't advocate retailers ignoring Hannukah. How is saying "Merry Christmas" ignoring Hannukah? I just heard a talk show last night where dozens of Jews called in to say that they love Christmas and will even say "Merry Christmas" back to somebody who says it to them. Those are real people.
so how does "Happy Holidays" translate to an attack on christianity?
You missed the entire point of
why BestBuy is doing this.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:14 am
by Narrock
arlos wrote:How is saying "Merry Christmas" ignoring Hannukah?
Well, it doesn't mention Hannukah, does it? No, neither I nor most other people are going to be even remotelyh offended by you telling me "Merry Christmas". Hell, my parents tell me that, though they know I'm not Christian any more, and I either say it back to them, or give them my own Happy Yule.
But what's so wrong in being INCLUSIVE at this time of year, when SO MANY religions have holidays? Happy Holidays includes Christmas, so you're getting your greeting. It also includes all the other festivals too. I certainly don't want stores to take down Christmas decorations, but why shouldn't I get to have my celebration recognized, if even in a generic fashion by "Happy Holidays"?
Also, if you read what I said, I'm in complete agreement with Ben Stein about displaying the Nativity, or the Manorah, etc, as long as they're on private property. You want to put up a nativity on your lawn, by all means, do so, and I'll defend to the hilt your right to display it. It's solely display as a government function that I have an issue with, and it's an issue I'd have with any religious display of any religion: christianity, judaism, shintoism, paganism, zorastrianism, whatever.
-Arlos
If a major retailer tells their employees they will be terminated if they say "Merry Christmas" to customers...
that is an attack on Christianity.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:14 am
by Narrock
Tikker wrote:Narrock wrote:I don't advocate retailers ignoring Hannukah. How is saying "Merry Christmas" ignoring Hannukah? I just heard a talk show last night where dozens of Jews called in to say that they love Christmas and will even say "Merry Christmas" back to somebody who says it to them. Those are real people.
so how does "Happy Holidays" translate to an attack on christianity?
It doesn't. You too, are missing the point.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:20 am
by Zanchief
Narrock wrote:If a major retailer tells their employees they will be terminated if they say "Merry Christmas" to customers... that is an attack on Christianity.
But Happy Holidays includes Christmas. How is that an attack? You are so vain that you demand sole and complete aknowledgement from the staff at BestBuy? Boy aren't you a good little Christian.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:25 am
by Narrock
Zanchief wrote:Narrock wrote:If a major retailer tells their employees they will be terminated if they say "Merry Christmas" to customers... that is an attack on Christianity.
But Happy Holidays includes Christmas. How is that an attack? You are so vain that you demand sole and complete aknowledgement from the staff at BestBuy? Boy aren't you a good little Christian.
You are one thick-headed ignoramous. Christmas is the reason for the season, therefore that word should not be excluded from greetings.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:27 am
by Zanchief
Vanity is a sin last I checked.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:36 am
by Narrock
It has nothing to with vanity. Nothing.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:46 am
by Zanchief
You want your religion to have prominence over all others. How is that not vain?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:03 am
by Narrock
Zanchief wrote:You want your religion to have prominence over all others. How is that not vain?
I'm not looking for the exclusionary rule. I want to see retailers respect the reason for the season. This county is getting all convoluted as it is. We're turning into a nation of pussies who are catering to politically-correct nonsense thanks to scumbag attorneys and the aclu.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:14 am
by Zanchief
You want to talk about pussies, how about you bleeding out your vagina about some holiday greeting from BestBuy.
Conservatives are the ones who sissified everything with their constant whining and feigning victimization.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:14 am
by Tossica
No, people are just tired of Christian bullshit and have started to do something about it.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:38 am
by Tae-Bo
hannukah is the reason for the season numb nuts
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:43 am
by Narrock
Zanchief wrote:You want to talk about pussies, how about you bleeding out your vagina about some holiday greeting from BestBuy.
Conservatives are the ones who sissified everything with their constant whining and feigning victimization.
No, attorneys and the aclu are the ones who pussified everything.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:54 am
by Xaiveir
Christmas is not the "Reason" for the season. Religion in General is. There are at least 4 types of religion that celebrate during this time of year. Its not just christianity. Therefore saying "Happy Holidays" includes everyone, without showing favoritism towards one. Nobody should be bent out of shape by it, nobody should get sued from it, nobody should be fired over it.
I find it very disturbing on both fronts that people get so offended by people saying Merry Christmas, and the other side being offended for saying Happy Holidays. We wonder why our world is in such a sad shape. Its because people cant grasp simple things, instead they look at the first thing that makes them look better, or is in compliance with THEIR practices and beliefs. Going to war over religion no matter what the front is stupid, plain and simple.
So to everyone on NT
Merry Christmas
Happy Hannukah
Happy Kwanza
Happy Winter Solstice
Happy LIfe in General, nomatter what religion, or what you believe in. Happy Holidays so i include everyone that i may have missed.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:11 pm
by Zanchief
Xaiveir wrote:Christmas is not the "Reason" for the season. Religion in General is. There are at least 4 types of religion that celebrate during this time of year. Its not just christianity. Therefore saying "Happy Holidays" includes everyone, without showing favoritism towards one. Nobody should be bent out of shape by it, nobody should get sued from it, nobody should be fired over it.
I find it very disturbing on both fronts that people get so offended by people saying Merry Christmas, and the other side being offended for saying Happy Holidays. We wonder why our world is in such a sad shape. Its because people cant grasp simple things, instead they look at the first thing that makes them look better, or is in compliance with THEIR practices and beliefs. Going to war over religion no matter what the front is stupid, plain and simple.
So to everyone on NT
Merry Christmas
Happy Hannukah
Happy Kwanza
Happy Winter Solstice
Happy LIfe in General, nomatter what religion, or what you believe in. Happy Holidays so i include everyone that i may have missed.
Why do you hate Jesus Xaiv? What did he do to you?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:11 pm
by Gaazy
Why cant everyone be happy...always has to be something to bitch and gripe about
Christ, just go about your business and be merry in the season however you please
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:19 pm
by Tikker
Narrock wrote:arlos wrote:How is saying "Merry Christmas" ignoring Hannukah?
Well, it doesn't mention Hannukah, does it? No, neither I nor most other people are going to be even remotelyh offended by you telling me "Merry Christmas". Hell, my parents tell me that, though they know I'm not Christian any more, and I either say it back to them, or give them my own Happy Yule.
But what's so wrong in being INCLUSIVE at this time of year, when SO MANY religions have holidays? Happy Holidays includes Christmas, so you're getting your greeting. It also includes all the other festivals too. I certainly don't want stores to take down Christmas decorations, but why shouldn't I get to have my celebration recognized, if even in a generic fashion by "Happy Holidays"?
Also, if you read what I said, I'm in complete agreement with Ben Stein about displaying the Nativity, or the Manorah, etc, as long as they're on private property. You want to put up a nativity on your lawn, by all means, do so, and I'll defend to the hilt your right to display it. It's solely display as a government function that I have an issue with, and it's an issue I'd have with any religious display of any religion: christianity, judaism, shintoism, paganism, zorastrianism, whatever.
-Arlos
If a major retailer tells their employees they will be terminated if they say "Merry Christmas" to customers...
that is an attack on Christianity.
no, they're being terminated for deviating from their script
ps, christmas is included in happy holidays you dipshit
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:24 pm
by Phlegm
Xaiveir wrote:Christmas is not the "Reason" for the season. Religion in General is. There are at least 4 types of religion that celebrate during this time of year. Its not just christianity. Therefore saying "Happy Holidays" includes everyone, without showing favoritism towards one. Nobody should be bent out of shape by it, nobody should get sued from it, nobody should be fired over it.
I find it very disturbing on both fronts that people get so offended by people saying Merry Christmas, and the other side being offended for saying Happy Holidays. We wonder why our world is in such a sad shape. Its because people cant grasp simple things, instead they look at the first thing that makes them look better, or is in compliance with THEIR practices and beliefs. Going to war over religion no matter what the front is stupid, plain and simple.
So to everyone on NT
Merry Christmas
Happy Hannukah
Happy Kwanza
Happy Winter Solstice
Happy LIfe in General, nomatter what religion, or what you believe in. Happy Holidays so i include everyone that i may have missed.
You forgot Happy Simbang Gabi.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:27 pm
by Xaiveir
Phlem wrote: You forgot Happy Simbang Gabi.
Xaiveir wrote:
Happy LIfe in General, nomatter what religion, or what you believe in. Happy Holidays so i include everyone that i may have missed.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:28 pm
by Xaiveir
Zanchief wrote:
Why do you hate Jesus Xaiv? What did he do to you?
/sniffle i dont want to talk about it, he he he touched me......