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[Martrae]

What is it most comparable to?

Graphics like Oblivion, combat a cross between standard MMO and an action-RPG on a console.

[Zanchief]

What's the magic system like? I've read quite a few Howard stories and magic was a little sparse.

[Martrae]

There's 3 mage classes. Demonologist, necromancer and Herald of Xotli, which is a mage/soldier hybrid. Xotli is a Demon-god, so it's all based on the dark arts.

[Zanchief]

But it's all pretty standard like nuke, buff, heal type spells.

[Martrae]

Fighters get combos, which remind me of DAOC combat. That's the only class I've tried so far so I really don't know what the other classes get.

[Tikker]

I'm not sure you where in LoS long enough to talk shit about anyone’s skills. .

was in LoS longer than most, but that's not really the point

[Zanchief]

I'm not sure you where in LoS long enough to talk shit about anyone’s skills. .

was in LoS longer than most, but that's not really the point

So what was your point?

[Tikker]

I'm not sure you where in LoS long enough to talk shit about anyone’s skills. .

was in LoS longer than most, but that's not really the point

So what was your point?

that the only thing that made EQ hard was lack of paying attention, and being able to eliminate repeat mistakes


so, if you found it hard (you wouldn't have called it hard otherwise) it's because you lacked those qualities

[Drem]

These became game mechanics the developers actually used with regularity to make the challenges more difficult because the engine was so poorly designed it left them zero flexibility for proper design

So what era of EQ are you comparing WoW to? Kunark or Velious? I still play EQ regularly and the raid encounters are so complicated and intricately scripted now that pickup raids can't even win encounters from 5 expansions ago (like Daosheen or OMM)

EQ isn't good because I liked it when I was young.... EQ is just as good as it ever was if not better now. If you come play expecting it to be what it was 10 years ago tho, you will be disappointed. The game was challenging because of the human element which is more or less removed as most game mechanics are simplified now.

Love it when you guys that don't even play come and make stupid posts like this tho. It takes 3 or 4 hours to lvl 40? You actually have to play WoW? lol... I've been working lvls 70-80 for over a month now and have 600 AA and i'm still nowhere near where I need to be to raid with my guild. So maybe you should guys should stop ranting about a game you haven't even been a part of for five years

[Drem]

posts like that make me feel like i'm listening to jello biafra's dated political commentaries

[Evermore]

i have but 1 question. If this game is SO great why did everyone leave and why didnt it hold the #1 spot?

[Reynaldo]

EQ is the greatest game ever made. Stop trying to kid yourselves.

I thought Shards of Dalaya was!!!!

EQ is still > most stuff out there. Although I find myself kind of against the dumbing down of it to make it more WoW'ish with everything starting to be spelled out for you in task windows.

Next expansion I expect to get a mini-map that has every single mob and location you need to be at neatly laid out.

[Drem]

i have but 1 question. If this game is SO great why did everyone leave and why didnt it hold the #1 spot?

I think a more appropriate question would be why did everyone you know leave? All of my friends still play and my guild's been here since 2001.... dunno wtf you're talking about. LoS wasn't my world and was never really one of my concerns. Mostly because I never wanted to play this game that much back then and when I did decide to raid I decided American guilds weren't for me because eurasian people raid when it's morning for me and they play the game better and talk less and don't have huge egos. Haven't had a single horrible raid experience like Globin going tourettes and camping in the middle of the raid and throwing the whole fuckin thing off. We might have two or three /gu messages during the whole raid and take something like solteris 234567 in about three hours. So now I get to put up with the "your whole guild is cheaters!!!!!" when 70% of silent resurgence uses mimi57 too...

The game's deeper than it ever was and has more shit to do than you have time to do it in.... and at the end of the day I don't end up like you guys who play every new game for one month, write it off, then start reminiscing about your old EQ experiences in some nostalgia thread

I like to get things done if I'm going to play a video game and switching games every day doesn't accomplish much. Tho if I start jonesing for pretty graphics I do play Gothic 3 because it's the sexiest RPG ever made

[Drem]

Next expansion I expect to get a mini-map that has every single mob and location you need to be at neatly laid out.

MacroQuest does this already... and probably 70% of EQ users use MQ/mimi57, so...

[Tikker]

i have but 1 question. If this game is SO great why did everyone leave and why didnt it hold the #1 spot?

people always want the shiny new game

I played both at end game, and both were pretty entertaining for raiding. I think the EQ community was just better, mostly because the mechanics forced you to group, to rub each other the wrong way, and to compete.

[Naethyn]

Next expansion I expect to get a mini-map that has every single mob and location you need to be at neatly laid out.

MacroQuest does this already... and probably 70% of EQ users use MQ/mimi57, so...

Lies! I never said such things.

[Drem]

hah, i wonder how that happened

[Zanchief]

These became game mechanics the developers actually used with regularity to make the challenges more difficult because the engine was so poorly designed it left them zero flexibility for proper design

So what era of EQ are you comparing WoW to? Kunark or Velious? I still play EQ regularly and the raid encounters are so complicated and intricately scripted now that pickup raids can't even win encounters from 5 expansions ago (like Daosheen or OMM)

EQ isn't good because I liked it when I was young.... EQ is just as good as it ever was if not better now. If you come play expecting it to be what it was 10 years ago tho, you will be disappointed. The game was challenging because of the human element which is more or less removed as most game mechanics are simplified now.

Love it when you guys that don't even play come and make stupid posts like this tho. It takes 3 or 4 hours to lvl 40? You actually have to play WoW? lol... I've been working lvls 70-80 for over a month now and have 600 AA and i'm still nowhere near where I need to be to raid with my guild. So maybe you should guys should stop ranting about a game you haven't even been a part of for five years

HA your game got better when the devs started playing WoW beta and realized how fucked they were with their stale game. They copied the entire design from blizzard and passed it off as their own. It is easier to lvl in EQ now. You can PL so easily. I've done it. I was embarrassed for how easy it was it made me want to never play again.

EQ is a dated game.

[Zanchief]

I think a more appropriate question would be why did everyone you know leave? All of my friends still play and my guild's been here since 2001.

It's pretty hard to ignore the subscription numbers, Drem. People left because the game didn't offer them anything anymore. There's much better games on the market.

[Arlos]

Why did I leave?

1) Because the expansion active when I left, GoD sucked donkey balls
2) Because SOE had systematically gutted and destroyed the Monk class into utter uselessness. Where monks were once needed for pulling, by that point other classes (especially bard) had far better pull tools, and then could offer other raid benefits as well. Aside from pulling, monks did sub-par DPS and nothing else. Guilds frequently had 0 monks, and were more successful than when they used monks for anything.
3) Because I went 2 months without internet and lost the habit of playing daily.
4) Because 95% of my friends in-game had already quit or left.
5) Because I got into the WOW Alpha, and even in an alpha state, I had more fun playing WOW than I did EQ. This one was rather incidental though, #1-4 had already convinced me to quit anyway, having a better and more fun game to jump to was just the icing on the cake.

-Arlos

[Diekan]

Just show some <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKDkvy9s ... re=related

Remember those days?

I'm loving EQ 2 right now... no it's not the same as running from a moss snake back in 1999, but it sure as hell beats the hell out of WoW in pretty much all aspects of gaming that are important to me.

[Diekan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdXO56Bc ... re=related

[Drem]

I think a more appropriate question would be why did everyone you know leave? All of my friends still play and my guild's been here since 2001.

It's pretty hard to ignore the subscription numbers, Drem. People left because the game didn't offer them anything anymore. There's much better games on the market.

Haha games like WoW that are full of so much faggotry that South Park dedicated an episode to ridiculing it? yeah, awesome

I'm sorry you actually think something like subscription numbers makes a difference. Unless there was one server left with 150 people I could never care about something like that. Obviously you're very passionate about your love affair with WoW and I can understand that but you can't ever convince me to play that piece of shit game. I hate almost everything about warcraft as is so a whole MMO dedicated to that franchise is like throwing a big video shit into a digital fan.

OMG I don't like the same game as you. Tough titty

[Arlos]

If you really want a movie from the old days: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-SQvDP5xh5c

Check out the 1:04-1:05 mark...

-Arlos

[Zanchief]

OMG I don't like the same game as you. Tough titty

Actually I hate both games, but I'm not silly enough to believe EQ is actually better than WoW, when the devs actually stole almost all their current content from blizzard.

Your game would still be the lame treadmill it was back in 2000 if WoW would have never been released.

It's cute that you still like EQ enough to have e-fights about it.

Also, the only reason South Park did an episode about WoW is because it's so popular that it has become culturally relevant, something EQ never was during it's time. Of course all the complaints they made about WoW could be applied ten fold to EQ.

Have you even played WoW Drem? You sound like someone who is sadly completely misinformed and happy to be ignorant as long as you side with your game.