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Arlos wrote:Oh, and the UN could never demand that the US give up it's nukes, because the US (along with France, England, Russia and China) has veto power in the security council.

I understand that, and you could be damn sure if France, England, Russia and China demanded it, we most certainly wouldn't go along. The point I was trying to make is the NK does not have that power in the UN so their only real choice is to simply ignore the UN and do what they feel they need to.

I do think that flying the rocket over Japan was certainly done intentionally in part to see what action it provoked from Japan, the US and the UN in general. Any action to intercept the rocket could have been seen as a provocation of war by NK. We have good enough surveillance to know that this was not a nuke and that it did not pose a direct threat to anyone that couldn't be removed in short order. Had we simply intercepted it, and NK choose to view this as a provocation of war, who knows where China would have sat. I am not blind to the fact that NK is far from an innocent and I do have concerns in regard to their actions, however at the same time, they are a nation in this world and should be allowed to decide for themselves how they are going to act. No superpower should be telling them what they can and can not learn and produce especially when said superpower has already done it.

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Shit, NK could nuke Japan or something and Flink would say something like "Oh it must have been a mistake! The guy who got the communications satellite ready must have duct taped a nuke to it by accident! Its ok! It wasnt my asian cuddle buddies fault!

Yeah, that's exactly what I'd say if North Korea launched a nuclear attack on another nation. Can't we just forgive and forget and hold hands?

But one former defector called the public events staged.

"People do not join voluntarily. If the party calls them to the rally, they are obligated to attend," Hyun In-ae, 53, a former professor who escaped in 2004, said of the celebrations.

"This is not an election in a democratic society. People are told to stand up and applaud when a certain line is being read."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 2462.story

That makes:

This is a time where North Koreans are feeling a lot of pride, and what do you think happens when they hear the world's reaction? All it accomplishes is uniting North Koreans against everyone else.

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KaiineTN wrote:Yeah, that's exactly what I'd say if North Korea launched a nuclear attack on another nation. Can't we just forgive and forget and hold hands?

Ok, wanna fuck?