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as to the post I had mentioned, I dont put much value behind it- when you have conditioned yourself to like a certain sex you would become attracted to the pharamones, at least I would think you would.

I just wanted to see it dismised with out a valid argument.

Gidan wrote:

Mindia wrote:

Gidan wrote:

Mindia wrote:

Diabolik wrote:

veeneedefeesh wrote:it draws attention away from the horrible condition our economy is in, the war in the middle east that is greatly profiting the oil companies and their EX VICE PRESIDENT WHO NOW IS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FUCKING STATES, and the fact that we elected a man TWICE to the highest office in our country that cant even say the word nuclear (I think that if you can't pronounce it you shouldnt have any control over it) , and the fact that your personal rights have been almost completely eradicated under the patriot act, and the horribly wasteful institution that is homeland security and a host of other things that are being done right under your nose while you are worried about whether one buttfucker should be allowed to marry another buttfucker.

Gay marrige is not an issue, it is a diversion!

Trielelvan wrote:

brinstar wrote:

KILL wrote:heres an idea - move to north carolina, join the rest of your klan buddies and live happily ever after

California belongs to the people, not a handful of ignorant activist politicians.

So did you have the same feelings when Clinton was impeached even though the majority of the people in this country didn't think he should? Americal belongs to the people not the politicians.

Where are you getting your info from? It was my understanding that most Americans were pissed off at Clinton for not only doing what he did in the Oval office with Monica Lewinsky, but lying about it under oath, and so most people did in fact want Clinton impeached.

Be warned that the formatting here was in html, so its going to suck. All values are in %. WARNING changes have been made for the purpose of formatting, no values were changed. Moved dates around to match up with values since they dont line up well.

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. December 19-20, 1998.

"As you may know, the House of Representatives has voted to impeach Bill Clinton. Next the Senate will hold a trial to decide whether or not Clinton should be removed from office. First, do you approve or disapprove of the House vote to impeach Clinton?"
Approve 40
Disapprove 59
No opinion 1

ABC News Poll. December 16, 1998.

"As you may know, the House of Representatives is expected to vote soon on whether or not to impeach Bill Clinton. If the House impeaches him, the Senate will hold a trial to decide whether or not Clinton should be removed from office. Based on what you know, do you think the House should or should not impeach Clinton?"
Should 40
Should not 58
No opinion 2

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. December 12-13, 1998.
ABC News Poll. December 11, 1998.

"As you may know, the House Judiciary Committee in Congress has voted to recommend that the full House impeach Clinton. Do you support or oppose the committee's vote to recommend impeachment?"
Dates 12/12-13/98 - 12/11/98
Support 41 43
Oppose 58 55
No opinion 1 2

ABC News and The Washington Post
"Based on what you know, do you think Congress should or should not impeach Clinton and remove him from office?"
Dates 12/2-6 - 11/20-22 - 10/29 -11/1- 10/22-25 - 10/15-18 - 10/8-10
Should 33 30 27 29 29 31
Should not 64 66 71 66 68 64
No opinion 3 4 2 5 3 4

CBS News/New York Times Poll. December 19-20, 1998. N=1,341 adults nationwide who had also been polled December 13-15 & 17..

"Given what you know right now, do you think it would be better for the country if Bill Clinton resigned from office, or do you think it would be better for the country if Bill Clinton finished his term as president?"
Resigned 31
Finished term 66
Don't know/No answer 3

CBS News Poll. December 18, 1998.
"The House is likely to vote on the four articles of impeachment tomorrow. When the full U.S. House of Representatives votes on whether or not to impeach President Clinton, do you want your representative to vote for or against impeachment?"
For 38
Against 58
Don't know/No answer 4

BS News/New York Times Poll. December 13-15, 1998.
"This week, the full U.S. House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on whether or not to impeach President Clinton. When the full House votes, do you want your representative to vote for or against impeachment?"
For 33
Against 62
Don't know/No answer 5

CNN/Time Poll conducted by Yankelovich Partners. December 17-18, 1998.
"As you probably know, the House of Representatives is considering a resolution to impeach President Clinton. If the majority of the House votes for impeachment, the Senate would have to decide whether Clinton is guilty and should be removed from office. Based on what you know, do you think the House should vote for or against the impeachment of Bill Clinton?"
For impeachment 37
Against impeachment 61
Not sure 2

Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll
"Now thinking about the action taken by the House of Representatives this weekend, do you approve or disapprove of the House decision to vote in favor of impeaching Clinton and sending the case to the Senate for trial?"
Date - Approve - Disapprove - NoOpinion
12/19-20/98 - 35 - 63 - 2

Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll
"What would you want your member of the House of Representatives to do: vote in favor of impeaching Clinton and sending the case to the Senate for trial, OR, vote against impeachment of Clinton?"
Date - Vote In Favor - Vote Against - No Opinion
12/15-16/98 - 36 - 62 - 2
12/12-13/98 - 38 - 59 - 3
12/4-6/98 - 32 - 66 - 2
11/20-22/98 - 33 - 64 - 3
11/13-15/98 - 31 - 66 - 3
10/23-25/98 - 33 - 61 - 6
10/9-12/98 - 34 - 62 - 4

Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll
"As you may know, the House Judiciary Committee is holding hearings on whether to recommend impeachment of Bill Clinton to the full House of Representatives. In your view, should the House Judiciary Committee vote for or against impeachment?"
Date - 12/11/98 - 12/10/98 - 12/9/98 - 12/8/98
For 37 - 34 - 34 - 34
Against 58 - 63 - 61 - 59
No opinion 5 - 3 - 5 - 7

Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll
"Based on what you know at this point, do you think that Bill Clinton should or should not be impeached and removed from office?"
Date - Should Be - Should Not Be - No Opinion
10/6-7/98 - 32 - 65 - 3
9/23-24/98 - 29 - 68 - 3
9/21/98 - 32 - 66 - 2
9/20/98 - 35 - 60 - 5
9/13/98 - 31 - 66 - 3
9/11-12/98 - 30 - 64 - 6
9/10/98 - 31 - 63 - 6
8/21-23/98 - 29 - 67 - 4
8/18/98 - 26 - 70 - 4
8/17/98 - 25 - 69 - 6
8/10-12/98 - 20 - 76 - 4
8/7-8/98 - 23 - 75 - 2
6/5-7/98 - 19 - 77 - 4

Should I continue with more?

I don't believe those polls.

Because of the source or they counter your argument?

No real need to awnser this, just food for thought

What sources do you accept? I havn't been able to find any polls that show that the nation was in favor of the impeachment.

However, even if I could find 1. The overwhelming majority of the polls say that the people did not want it.

You also havn't commented on the fact that the people didn't vote in bush, the people voted for Gore.

Gore invented the internet, FYI.

Yah he did. He got tired of hiding his pr0n mags from his ugly wife Tipper and decided to invent an "online porn storage world" dubbed "intarnetz".

Scares me how many people actually think gore said "I invented the internet"

Gidan wrote:Scares me how many people actually think gore said "I invented the internet"

He did say that. Furthermore, most of the poll sources you cited are very left-leaning organizations. Clinton himself may as well have been in charge of those polls.

Actually gore said

During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

What he said was that he took the initiating, he didn't invent it. Gore actually had a leading role in assuring that the internet project of the time was kept under the National Science Foundation which would later create nsfnet which became the internet as we know it today.

The word invented was added by Dick Armey (Republican congressmen).

Vincent Cerf was quoted as saying

The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator.

And if you dont know who Vincent Cerf is and why his quote might be relivent you might want to look him up a bit.

If those poll sources are not good enough, then what are some neutral sources that did polls and what were their results?

I invented the question mark.

I invented Post-Its

Mindia wrote:

Gidan wrote:Scares me how many people actually think gore said "I invented the internet"

He did say that. Furthermore, most of the poll sources you cited are very left-leaning organizations. Clinton himself may as well have been in charge of those polls.

Harrison wrote:

Mindia wrote:

Gidan wrote:Scares me how many people actually think gore said "I invented the internet"

He did say that. Furthermore, most of the poll sources you cited are very left-leaning organizations. Clinton himself may as well have been in charge of those polls.

Venee: He went for Mindia Standard Option B, when he can't actually respond to the content of a post: he ignored it completely. Option A is to insult the author, Option B is to ignore it, Option C is to reply with a or some similar icon, and Option D is the one you mentioned. I suppose the potential exists for Option E, actually responding to the post in an intelligent manner, arguing his position with actual logic and supporting statements, but I haven't seen it yet, so I'm not exactly holding out much hope.

-Arlos

Mindia wrote:

Gidan wrote:Scares me how many people actually think gore said "I invented the internet"

He did say that.

No, he didn't. He saw the potential of the Arpanet (emergency military computer network) and fought for the funding that would turn it into the Internet we know and love today.

And the direct quote was "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." Which he did, by championing and funding it, not by writing the fucking PASCAL code that allows packet switching.

Vivalicious wrote:

Mindia wrote:

Gidan wrote:Scares me how many people actually think gore said "I invented the internet"

He did say that.

No, he didn't. He saw the potential of the Arpanet (emergency military computer network) and fought for the funding that would turn it into the Internet we know and love today.

And the direct quote was "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." Which he did, by championing and funding it, not by writing the fucking PASCAL code that allows packet switching.

Thank you for your insight, Ms. Google.

I give up.

A simple "oops I was wrong" would work out nicely Mindia. :P

Mindia is obviously quite content in his ignorance of simple events/word definitions/ect. A person who does not want to learn cannot be taught, so I give up.

What is it with people using the "evidence card" all the time?

Google? Research of <i>facts</i>? Can't we just make things up and be belligerent and ignorant?

I was being sarcastic, by the way.

What the hell are you idiots talking about? What Gore said could be construed as saying that he invented the internet. I wasn't wrong about a damn thing here.

...and that's why you're you, Mindia. Take that as you will.

Diabolik wrote:...and that's why you're you, Mindia. Take that as you will.

And that's why you guys are who you are.

We rock.

It could be, if you didn't read the entire transcript of the interview. It wasn't taken that way until Dick Armey's office started faxing out like mad to everyone they could find saying that he had made outlandish comments and that peopel were up in arms about it. Of course no one had even heard a single peep about it until after those faxs went out and people ran with it using the word invented.

It was just a republican trying to discredit a possible presidental nominee. He got your "reliable" sources to run with an inacurate representation of what was actually said and the american people just acepted it as the truth. Many people to this day still beleive gore actually said and I QUOTE "I invented the internet" because thats what they were told.

He didn't claim to be the creater of the internet in a sence that he was going to get it patented. He was infact probably the most important person in passing legislation that allowed the internet as we know it today to form into what we have now.