Why I'm conservative

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:36 pm

I stopped reading this like 15 pages ago, what's up guys.

Spacewoman Spiff · Post by **Spacewoman Spiff** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:38 pm

I know that premarital sex is considered sinful, but is masturbation?

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:38 pm

Mary Magdelene was supposedly a hottie.

Muglack · Post by **Muglack** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:38 pm

Thousands of souls down the drain (expecially if you do it in the shower)....

Spacewoman Spiff · Post by **Spacewoman Spiff** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:39 pm

Biblical hottie.. does that mean she still had some of her teeth?

Dentistry and oral hygiene weren't really very prevalent back then, you know.

Langston · Post by **Langston** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:44 pm

Jesus spanked it... he had to have.... either that or there was a good reason why John was the "beloved of Jesus"....

Maybe there was a little some-some going on there.

Jesus said "This is my body given for you so that your sins may be forgiven. Do this in rememberance of me"
John said "Right here in front of all the other guys, Jesus?"

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:44 pm

Lourdes... do a google search on, "Is masturbation a sin?" Let me know what you came up with, thx~

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:57 pm

NM I did my own google search and found this:

IS MASTURBATION SINFUL?

1) MASTURBATION IS DEFINITELY MORTAL SIN! FIND OUT WHY!

2) THE REALITY

3) THE ANSWER!

Why Is Masturbation Sin?

Masturbation is a sin because a person consents in their own heart to take sexual gratification from impure thoughts. It is sinful to indulge in the sexual pleasure that is derived from the satisfaction of using one's imagination to FIXATE upon obscene images, or obscene actions, or forbidden sex. Lustfully fixating upon genitals, or sexual acts, is idolatry. This is called: the worship of obscenities. This is the sin of those addicted to pornography. That's often a "guy" thing. Alternatively, taking delight in the lust of another, or consummating a fantasy of forbidden sexual romance, is the sin of adultery in the heart. That's often a "girl" thing. The act of masturbation is an outward act that confirms that one's heart and mind has consented to an inward act of impurity. Only by consenting to an imagined act of impurity can one attain orgasm. To attain sexual release, a person's will consents to LOVE something that is sexually impure.

:eyecrazy:

Muglack · Post by **Muglack** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:01 pm

So if a married guy jerks off to thoughts/images of his wife, he's good to go?

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:02 pm

apparently so

Muglack · Post by **Muglack** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:03 pm

What if you're married to God?

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:04 pm

But that pisses me off because now I have to stop yankin it to Kizzy's picture. OH FUCK I"M SUCH THE HYPOCRITZ!!! :balloons:

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:05 pm

Muglack wrote:What if you're married to God?

Muglack · Post by **Muglack** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:06 pm

If I marry God can I keep jerking it to Jesus on the cross?

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:08 pm

Thread over.

Muglack · Post by **Muglack** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:10 pm

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:32 pm

CONCUR!

Langston · Post by **Langston** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:45 pm

So, Judas, John, and Jesus walked into a gay bar...

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:52 pm

Ugzugz wrote:So, Taxx, DangerPaul, Diekan and Ugzugz walked into a gay bar...

FIXED.

Langston · Post by **Langston** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:54 pm

Dude. Stop trying to be funny. You're failing miserably and it's starting to become sad. Very sad.

Post by **Ganzo** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:12 pm

Lourdes wrote:I know that premarital sex is considered sinful, but is masturbation?

There is a story about guy who's older brother died and he had to marry his dead brother's wife:

Genesis 38:9-10
"Onan realized that the children would not carry his name. Therefore, whenever he came to his brother's wife, he let the seed go to waste on the ground, so as not to have children in his brother's name. What he did was evil in God's eyes, and He also made him die."

From this many discussions in Talmud(and later in christianity) evolved into making masturbation and birth controll sin. However by now it is considered(at least by jews) that his sin was pride and selfishness, not wasting seed.
That is only mention of the subject in the Old Testament.

Mindia, i know you ignored this, but i posted this for a reason:

Ganzo wrote:Mindia, if we going to the source, lets go all the way

Mindia wrote:
Exodus 20: 2-6 states, "I, the LORD, am your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. You shall not have other gods besides me.(Jesus Christ, Holly Spirit?) You shall not carve idols for yourselves in the shape of anything in the sky above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the earth (cross?);you shall not bow down before them or worship them. For I, the LORD, your God, am a jealous God, inflicting punishment for their fathers' wickedness on the children of those who hate me, down to the third and fourth generation; but bestowing mercy down to the thousandth generation, on the children of those who love me and keep my commandments."

When you tell Ugzugz that his religion is idol worship, your statements have as much validity as my statement about your religion above. It's not question of traditions or quotes from Bible, but of personal faith.

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:40 pm

You beat me to it Ganzo.

Yes masterbation is a sin, your "seed" is not supposed to hit the ground as quoted in Ganzo's above post.

Muglack · Post by **Muglack** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:42 pm

SO if I cup it and keep it in a jar, am I good to go?

Diabolik · Post by **Diabolik** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:44 pm

Every Sperm is Sacred!

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:51 pm

No Muglack, I think the sperm is supposed to go into the woman and no where else. I could be wrong though, I am only telling you MY INTERPRETATION of what the Bible says, I am in no way trying to tell you that what I belief is the absolute truth.