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Oh I got ownt for sure.

Taxx wrote:Rofl I'd love to duel a melee hunter, that would be a total slaughter. The only time they get a chance on me is if vanish is down and i'm stupid enough to run into a frost trap while they kite me.

A combination of Deflection, Deterence, Lightning Reflexes, Improved Wing Clip, and Counterattack would be incredibly annoying in PvP. I'm not sure it would be enough to take a dedicated melee class like a rogue or a warrior, but it could be effective against most other classes.

All that doesn't mean jack when you're not a plate class, you'll never come out of stun before you're dead.

Taxx wrote:All that doesn't mean jack when you're not a plate class, you'll never come out of stun before you're dead.

Taxx is right

A hunter should never be able to beat a rogue toe to toe

just won't happen


I've killed rogues with melee before

but, I also could have probably killed those same rogues with just my pet, they were that bad


a well played rogue vs a well played hunter

If the hunter can stay at range, he'll win np

If the rogue can get into melee range, he'll win np

simple as that

And if a shaman shows up, he'll kill them both. ccc~

Well I'm not Noobliance so I don't need to worry about that. (plus you'd never catch me)

Frost shock and a Flame DOT takes care of the rogues, normally. Can't vanish and can't run fast enough.

Never lost a one on one, closest fight was with another shaman 2 levels above me.

free action potion, 2 sprints, goodbye.

Maybe... but relying on potions is tenuous... especially if I can reapply the frost shock every 2 seconds. Regardless, running is for pussies!

Well if you're 1 on 1 then bring it. If you're jumping in after a gank then you're the pussy=P

I only gank Alliance people... and I do that with great glee.

Good, we have something in common.

Taxx wrote:All that doesn't mean jack when you're not a plate class, you'll never come out of stun before you're dead.

Once more for the cheap seats: "I'm not sure it would be enough to take a dedicated melee class like a rogue or a warrior, but it could be effective against most other classes."

I noticed that, I was just putting that out there.

I'll re-iterate


A melee hunter isn't effective in PvP

no matter how much of the survival line you take, you're still a watered down warrior at best, and we all know how much of a 1 on 1 PvP monster warriors are

what you talkin' bout warriors pwn in pvp!!!

A warrior won't take any more than 20% out of me, max.

at one point i had 26 pts survival 25 marks, and it was complete shit (and no i wasn't basing my combat on melee either, i just wanted counterattack which isn't worth the points)

only things worth getting in survival tree is improved wing clip and entrapment (this is just if you're on a pvp server, if i was on a pve server i would do it differently)

and beyond that, i haven't lost a duel to a rogue in 3 levels, they're the easiest class to a duel against for me

I wish we all would have played on the same server. I'd love to do more smacktalking.

here i'll tell you how:

pet on passive, accept duel, place freezing trap at my feet, flare over the trap

duel starts, rogue stealths, i stand still and do nothing except recast flare if needed

rogue hits trap, i run and mark whilst running, aimed shit, fd quickly and place another freezing trap at feet, shoot rogue without using DoT's while he's running to me, he hits trap again, i run to max range again, once you run far enough you'll exit combat, place freezing trap, aimed shot, so on and so forth

i don't even get to use my pet the whole time and i usually come out with only being hit once or twice

and yeah i admit it's cheap, but i hate dueling so i exploit the situation to the fullest

Uh, you've been fighting some REALLY shitty rogues then. First of all you can cast detect traps while in stealth (i never let it down during pvp). Secondly if the rogue lets you get off flair, he's a fucking noob. Distract the noob hunter, cheapshot and it's over. Even if your trap is at your feet you can be out of range and still able to CS him. Even in a worse case scenario I somehow bone-headedly hit the trap, vanish and do it all over again.

um how can you distract me from casting flare when the duel hasn't started yet or you're 30 yards away from me @_@

1) why would you be 30 yards away

2) if you WERE 30 yards away, flare wouldn't unstealth you

3) you can now stealth before a duel begins

4) any good pvper knows the cooldown on other classes disabling spells (hello, flare, and AE fear)

15 second cool down 30 second duration

flare radius is large enough so that a rogue can't disarm a trap while it's up

and i know you can stealth before a duel begins


i've dueled "the best rogues on the server" over and over and over, they all want to try and see if they can counter what i'm doing and so far none have been able to, and just looking at rogue abilities, i don't see how they can either

it's not really a matter of a rogue's lack of skill, it's just how certain hunter abilities are played out that allow them do it

i can do it to warriors too, it just takes longer, and against casters it's impossible to use against

I don't see why you think it's so difficult. I'm subltely based and I have a counter to everything you listed...*shrug*