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Racism and NamelessTavern
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:01 am
by vonkaar
My opinion:
It took the worst natural disaster in our nations history to bring out all of these strong opinions. That sickens me. Months ago, people may have thought such racist things as, "James Byrd likely deserved it" or "I'm actually starting to wonder if they were meant to be a slave race," but few would have said it. Now - with thousands dead and hundreds of thousands more left homeless, you people are feeling liberal with your racism and your hate-mongering. Awesome. You were a few pussy loners with your opinions a year ago, and now you are a collective gang of pussies while people are dying. Mob mentality. Congrats.
That's how I feel.
That's how I would HOPE the members of NT would feel... but I might be wrong.
For the most part, NT's administration is a tyranny. When I want to add features or upgrade the backend, I simply do it. However, in regard to moderation, I usually leave it up to the members.
Rule # 1 states, "Do not use ethnic or racial slurs."
That's obviously been lightly enforced over the past few months. However, I'm at the point where I'm OFFENDED by a lot of the discussions lately. I would be embarrassed to invite a friend to NT; they might think me an admin of a Klan forum. Still, the moderation is mostly based on popular opinion.
So, I leave it to you. Please don't use this thread to discuss the merits OF my argument - I only want to know what you all think about the direction of the board. Hence, "board feedback." Should we, as moderators, crack down on all this racism? Should we allow it to continue? Give the administration a nice argument either way.
I'll leave it to popular vote.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:15 am
by Zanchief
I voted 2 because I don't think people should be censored necessarily, but things have gotten really out of hand.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:18 am
by mofish
How about 1 temporarily. Kinda like martial law til the foul stench of all this internet e-hatred starts to dissipate.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:33 am
by Insanityfair
I went 2 just because of the fact that it always has been lightly enforced. Though I'm wondering if that would even be a good idea...let someone have 200 posts before they realize what people here can really be like...
I kind of like Mofish's idea, just to get it under control for a bit, because really, some of the opinions, while they are opinions, could have been said a lot better lately especially since some NTers were apart of the disaster, either being there themselves or having family/friends there.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:16 pm
by Harrison
Whiny bitches...
Now with that out of the way...
I know you all think of me as the fucking Grand Dragon of MA or some equally inane bullshit, but you're wrong.
Racism such as "I'm actually starting to wonder if they were meant to be a slave race," is ridiculous and needs to be moderated. (Although I doubt Ralf really feels that way...I think he said that quote)
Completely objective and factual information that people CONSIDER racist is completely under this radar, regardless of how you feel about it. Period.
I.E. Percentage of populations who have committed violent crime statistics. That is OBVIOUSLY racist

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:19 pm
by Harrison
But we all know with the pussy population of the forums what vote will win.
Gogo communism
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:21 pm
by Phlegm
not communism... more like totalitarian
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:26 pm
by vonkaar
Harrison wrote:Gogo communism
roflz
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:27 pm
by Zanchief
Phlegm wrote:not communism... more like totalitarian
vonkaar wrote:I'll leave it to popular vote.
Re: Racism and NamelessTavern
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:41 pm
by vonkaar
vonkaar wrote:For the most part, NT's administration is a tyranny.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:41 pm
by Harrison
And why was my post deleted?
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:43 pm
by Zanchief
One of these days Finawin is FINALLY gonna convince someone he's not a pussy.
That day, unfortunately for him, is not today.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:44 pm
by Harrison
Fortunately for me, I don't have to prove it to you. (Who I might add could possibly weigh as much as one of my legs some day if you try)
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:01 pm
by Zanchief
Harrison wrote:Fortunately for me, I don't have to prove it to you.
I really wish that were true, Fin.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:42 pm
by labbats
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:09 pm
by Phlegm
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:12 pm
by The Kizzy
hairpie
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:13 pm
by Menlaan
I agree absolutely with Vonkaar's sentiment.
BTW, whoever predicted that Finawin would be the next Mindia was dead-on.
Menlaan
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:44 pm
by Stabfase
Menlaan wrote:I agree absolutely with Vonkaar's sentiment.
BTW, whoever predicted that Finawin would be the next Mindia was dead-on.
Menlaan
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:19 pm
by Lyion
Poll wrote:Yes. It should be lightly moderated. Allow COMPLETELY free speech in a '200+ post members only' forum, hidden from guest view.
Lightly Mod everything but EE & Cat Crew.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:08 pm
by Trielelvan
Insanityfair wrote:I went 2 just because of the fact that it always has been lightly enforced.
Ditto. It hasn't been that bad in the past, and it was tolerated to some degree before, so I see no reason why it should suddenly be subject to nazi law.
However, I do think some additional monitoring is necessary until this bullshit cools off a bit.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:42 pm
by Tikker
Well I actually don't care either way you want to do it
just find a way for it to be consistently enforced
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:05 pm
by Captain Insano
Harrison wrote:Whiny bitches...
Now with that out of the way...
I know you all think of me as the fucking Grand Dragon of MA or some equally inane bullshit, but you're wrong.
Racism such as "I'm actually starting to wonder if they were meant to be a slave race," is ridiculous and needs to be moderated. (Although I doubt Ralf really feels that way...I think he said that quote)
Completely objective and factual information that people CONSIDER racist is completely under this radar, regardless of how you feel about it. Period.
I.E. Percentage of populations who have committed violent crime statistics. That is OBVIOUSLY racist

I say what I want because this is the internet and not a godamn thing I ever post here will affect anyone. Half of what I say is to incite an E-Riot and drive conversation.
I voted option 3... The internet needs it's anti-christs and pornographer's to sustain life. It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it.
In all reality I'm not some card carrying member of the klan, nor do commit any hostility on any man/woman/child based upon race. But if you ask me if I'm sick to death of this one-sided "fuck whitey" reverse racism shit that is running rampant in this country I say hell the fuck yes.
If you ask me if I feel bad when I succeed through hard work where other's in need fail, I say hell the fuck no.
When it comes down to racism I don't believe in it at all, but right along side of that I don't believe in special treatment whatsoever. My opinion's don't coincide with the liberal media and the current majority in this country. Sue me.
Until otherwise informed I am going to continue being mean and spiteful and brash (also quite dashing I might add) if I think the topic deserves it.
Ralf
Last comments on Lousiana on this board:
I really IRL don't give a shit about the people hit by the hurricane for the most part. The little part of me that is religious thinks that some higher power decided to lay waste to human fecal shithole that is Louisiana.
99 percent of you have never been there for any extended amount of time and have no idea what the people are really like. They don't deserve your sympathy. The lack of timely support our nation gave them is a testament to how fed up a lot of people are getting with various ethnic and minority groups absolutely atrocious behavior towards those that would help them and their fellow Americans.
I think this poor horse has been beat to death so I'm going to leave this topic be.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:05 pm
by Guest
99 percent of you have never been there for any extended amount of time and have no idea what the people are really like. They don't deserve your sympathy. The lack of timely support our nation gave them is a testament to how fed up a lot of people are getting with various ethnic and minority groups absolutely atrocious behavior towards those that would help them and their fellow Americans.
Couldn't have been said any better.
oh..and don't censor, please.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:11 pm
by leah
Tikker wrote:Well I actually don't care either way you want to do it
just find a way for it to be consistently enforced
/agree
i'm with you vonkaar, i don't really appreciate all the slurs that get tossed around so freely.
people are entitled to their opinions, yes, but when stated in such negative, hateful, and hurtful ways, it's hard not to be at least a little offended...
people need to have a little decency towards each other, and if it takes some sort of executive action to enforce it, more power to you.