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Why would a computer:
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:41 am
by 10sun
refuse to boot up when I put an ATI 9600 All In Wonder video card in the AGP slot?
It is a Shuttle sk43g.
I mean when I put the vid card in, the system flat out refuses to power up. The minute I remove it, it will boot up just fine.
Any ideas?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:43 am
by Tacks
power supply?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:47 am
by 10sun
200w PSU, but it is only running an underclocked Semperon 2400, 1x 7200rpm HD, 1gb corsair DDR ram.
I would think that would be more than enough power for that setup.
-Adam
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:50 am
by Tacks
Hmm I dunno, I thought those all-in-wonders were power hogs. Those are the ones with the cable connector yes? Nothing else makes sense other than lack of power.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:50 am
by Lueyen
200w is a very light power supply. Are you getting any bios beep codes, or is it just not powering on at all? Also can you try it in a different machine? What type of vid card is in it before the ATI?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:58 am
by Harrison
200w PS?
I didn't think those still existed in the wild.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:13 am
by Lueyen
As I recall, the recomendations for the first 1Ghz processors were for a minimum power supply of 300w. This of course depends on how many devices you wish to plug in, but the 300w recomendation was for a "standard" machine.
Re: Why would a computer:
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:37 am
by Tikker
10sun wrote:refuse to boot up when I put an ATI 9600 All In Wonder video card in the AGP slot?
It is a Shuttle sk43g.
I mean when I put the vid card in, the system flat out refuses to power up. The minute I remove it, it will boot up just fine.
Any ideas?
some older AGP cards are 3.3v
most mobo now look for 1.5v AGP cards
If you have an older AGP card, the system may not boot up
I only know this cause I was looking at my mobo manual last night, and saw that(ps, i may have the 3.3v and the 1.5v reveresed, but you get the idea. non-matching voltages is likely the cause)
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:31 am
by 10sun
The video card is supported per the manufacturer. It is the onboard video causing issues I believe.
-Adam
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:33 am
by Lueyen
Is there an option in bios to disable it if another adapter is present?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:03 pm
by 10sun
nope. nor is there a jumper that is easily discernable as the one to disable onboard video.
-Adam
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:09 pm
by Tossica
There should be a setting in the bios that tells it which video card is the primary display. When you say it doesn't boot, does the power supply even fire up or does nothing happen?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:34 pm
by 10sun
Tested with another agp video card, booted up fine with an old GeForce 2ti.
Nothing at all happens with the ATI card.
-Adam
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:46 pm
by Tossica
AGP voltage or power supply issue then.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:21 pm
by Martrae
Does the card work in a different machine? Might just be a dead card.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:23 pm
by 10sun
The pc wouldn't simply refuse to even power up if it were a dead card I don't think.
I'm testing that out later this evening in any case at my friend's house... he still runs an AGP card in his main box.
-Adam
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:19 pm
by Tikker
i'm still going to assume I"m right!
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:52 am
by 10sun
video card is dead. fuck Newegg. That is the second dead on arrival item that was in that shipment.