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Dolphins...sigh
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:53 pm
by Ouchyfish
This sucks. Can't a franchise this fucking big do better than Nick Saban? can't they get a better QB than Ferotte? Christ...
Re: Dolphins...sigh
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:25 am
by Phlegm
OuchyFish wrote:This sucks. Can't a franchise this fucking big do better than Nick Saban? can't they get a better QB than Ferotte? Christ...
Who do you think they should get instead of Saban to coach? Maybe their plan this year is to play for Matt Leinhart of USC.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:52 am
by Ouchyfish
Never thought of that. the only problem is that it seems like these stellar college quarterbacks don't always pan out. Every once in a great while do you get a Manning or a Bledsoe. The best end up being virtual unknowns in college.
Saban might end up being an awesome coach because supposedly he can recruit/ judge talent very well. I just didn't see anything stellar about his record. I do admit he has more potential than the last guy though.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:23 am
by xaoshaen
Have you seen the roster Saban inherited? I'd say he's done a hell of a job with what he's been given.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:57 am
by Lyion
Miami got the best coach available. It takes time to input a system and get the skill players needed to turn a franchise around.
Jimmy Johnson won one game his first year in Dallas. Good thing they didn't fire him then.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:47 pm
by Ouchyfish
I don't think he will be able to swing a Walker deal though.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:49 pm
by Phlegm
OuchyFish wrote:I don't think he will be able to swing a Walker deal though.

Unless Ditka got back into coaching then you can do a similar deal with Ricky Williams.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:50 pm
by Minrott
Saban's doing pretty good. Gruden on the other hand inheritted a superbowl team, and promply turned them into wildcard hopefuls.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:44 pm
by Spliffs
The bucs are doing a good job of righting that ship. I'm not a huge gruden fan either, but they are looking good this year.
Also, I think you're drunk Ouchy. Quarterback is the one position where you can usually predict success based on college. 7 out of 12 starters in last years playoffs were first round picks. Out of those who weren't, two of them were very early second round picks.
The only virtual unknown who ended up being one of the best is Brady, and he is a major exception, not the rule.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:00 pm
by Phlegm
Spliffs wrote:The bucs are doing a good job of righting that ship. I'm not a huge gruden fan either, but they are looking good this year.
Also, I think you're drunk Ouchy. Quarterback is the one position where you can usually predict success based on college. 7 out of 12 starters in last years playoffs were first round picks. Out of those who weren't, two of them were very early second round picks.
The only virtual unknown who ended up being one of the best is Brady, and he is a major exception, not the rule.
While this may be true but there are also a bunch of first round quarterbacks that didnt pan out.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:19 pm
by Diekan
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My son... once you learn that the Bills > Dolphins - the happier you'll be. You're life will improve - you'll get laid a lot more often.
Embrace your inner hidden love for the Bills.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:33 pm
by Phlegm
Diekan wrote:hahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah]
My son... once you learn that the Bills > Dolphins - the happier you'll be. You're life will improve - you'll get laid a lot more often.
Embrace your inner hidden love for the Bills.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:14 pm
by Ouchyfish
I assume you are referring to the team this year. If you are referring to franchise history, you are smoking crack.
Remember that Superbowl that the Bills won? I don't!
Dolphins’ longest win streak against the Bills: 20, (10/18/70 – 10/14/79)
All time: Miami 49, Buffalo 32 (1 tie)
Buffalo can go fuck themselves. I prayed every game for Jim Kelly to get the life knocked out of him.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:09 pm
by Tadpole
Fuck Buffalo, but not as bad as the Jests though.
The season is still young my friend, Sage should be starting next week in New Orleans, when we feast on the worst defense in the league. Hopefully Linehan will not be a fucking retard and pass the ball 40 times, and actually run the ball with Ronnie 20-25 times, and give Ricky 10 carries, since we do have two good RBs. Gus did splendid when we ran short timed routes against Denver, but ever since Linehan has tried to open up the field and the vertical passing game and it hasn't worked. Hopefully he learns that!
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:57 pm
by Spliffs
Phlegm wrote:Spliffs wrote:The bucs are doing a good job of righting that ship. I'm not a huge gruden fan either, but they are looking good this year.
Also, I think you're drunk Ouchy. Quarterback is the one position where you can usually predict success based on college. 7 out of 12 starters in last years playoffs were first round picks. Out of those who weren't, two of them were very early second round picks.
The only virtual unknown who ended up being one of the best is Brady, and he is a major exception, not the rule.
While this may be true but there are also a bunch of first round quarterbacks that didnt pan out.
That can be said about every draft, at every position, in every round, for all time. You can't draft with a "Well what if it doesn't work?" mentality, then you couldn't pick anyone. The point was that most successful quarterbacks are high draft picks.
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:00 pm
by Ouchyfish
Neil Lomax for the win!

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:12 pm
by Phlegm
OuchyFish wrote:Neil Lomax for the win!

Highest qb pick that flop is Ryan Leaf.
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:22 pm
by Ouchyfish
Didn't the Dolphins have him for a bit? I was in and out of the NFl loop the last 2 years.
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:26 pm
by Phlegm
OuchyFish wrote:Didn't the Dolphins have him for a bit? I was in and out of the NFl loop the last 2 years.
I dont know but San Diego drafted him.
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:13 pm
by Minrott
San Diego has good luck drafting QB's.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:04 am
by Phlegm
Minrott wrote:San Diego has good luck drafting QB's.
The last good one was Dan Fouts.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:58 am
by Phlegm
The fish can always go trade for Harrington. He's not doing anything now that Garcia is starting.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:02 pm
by xaoshaen
Phlegm wrote:Minrott wrote:San Diego has good luck drafting QB's.
The last good one was Dan Fouts.
Drew Brees? He's 6th in the league by DPAR, fifth by DVOA.
Philip Rivers or Eli Manning, depending which one you give them credit for. Either one has a ton of potential. We'll see if they actually pan out.
LDT? Hey, his passing DPAR is better than that of quite a few quarterbacks in the NFL right now.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:37 pm
by Tadpole
hahaha i love LT. one week he throws, rushes, and catches a TD.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:01 pm
by Ouchyfish
Dolphins should have traded for the 2004 Auburn backfield. Jason Campbell, Ronnie brown, and Cadillac Williams. Couldn't be worse.