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Iran leader: Move Israel to Europe.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:36 pm
by Phlegm
From Reuters:

TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) -- Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has expressed doubt that the Holocaust occurred and suggested Israel be moved to Europe.

His comments, reported by Iran's official IRNA news agency from a news conference he gave on Thursday in the Saudi Arabian city of Mecca, follow his call in October for Israel to be "wiped off the map," which sparked widespread international condemnation.

"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that they condemn that person and throw them in jail," IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

"Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our question for the Europeans is: is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem?" he said.

"If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe -- like in Germany, Austria or other countries -- to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe and we will support it."

Historians say six million Jews were killed in the Nazi Holocaust. Ahmadinejad's remarks drew swift rebukes from Israel and Washington.

"This is not the first time, unfortunately, that the Iranian president has expressed the most outrageous ideas concerning Jews and Israel," said Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev.

"He is not just Israel's problem. He is a worry for the entire international community," he added.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said: "It just further underscores our concerns about the regime in Iran and it's all the more reason why it's so important that the regime not have the ability to develop nuclear weapons."
Once allies

Religious hardliners in Iran do not publicly deny the Holocaust occurred but say its scale has been exaggerated to justify the creation of Israel and continued Western support for it.

Close allies when Iran was ruled by the U.S.-backed Shah, Iran and Israel have become implacable foes since Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution.

Israel accuses Iran of giving arms and funding to militant Palestinian groups such as Islamic Jihad and of building nuclear weapons. Iran denies the charges.

Tehran calls Israel a "terrorist state" and has developed missiles which can reach it. It says it would use them if Israel, itself believed to be nuclear-armed, tried to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities.

Earlier in his remarks, the Iranian president, a former Revolutionary Guardsman who won a surprise election victory in June, said:

"The question is, where do those who rule in Palestine as occupiers come from? Where were they born? Where did their fathers live? They have no roots in Palestine but they have taken the fate of Palestine in their hands.

"Isn't the right to national self-determination one of the principles of the United Nations charter? Why do they deprive Palestinians of this right?"

Jews trace their roots in Israel back to Biblical times.

Ahmadinejad concluded his remarks by reiterating Iran's proposal that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict be resolved via a referendum of all the inhabitants of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank as well as Palestinian refugees in neighboring countries.

"Whatever they decide will be accepted by all humanity. This is a clear democratic solution which is based on international principles," he said.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:38 pm
by Ouchyfish
Someone needs to tell this guy to find a new angle. They are trying to hammer out a peace deal over in israel and Palestine is waking up ever so slowly. (At least I would like to think shit is getting better there.)

He needs to verbally attack the TWs. He would probably fare better on the global scene.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:22 pm
by Captain Insano
Iran is going to get nuked off the map by us. The minute they go nuclear they will be fucked.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:29 pm
by mappatazee
Do they still chant "Death to America!" during their legislative sessions?

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:31 pm
by Tuggan
captain_insano wrote:Iran is going to get nuked off the map by us. The minute they go nuclear they will be fucked.


just like north korea?

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:33 pm
by Spazz
We are not in the habbit of fighting with countries that can fight back. If iraq gives us this much trubble just think bout how much trubble nukes an army and who knows what else would give.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:38 pm
by Jimmy Durante
Pffft! Everyone knows the Holohoax never happened.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:18 pm
by Harrison
spazz wrote:We are not in the habbit of fighting with countries that can fight back. If iraq gives us this much trubble just think bout how much trubble nukes an army and who knows what else would give.


We would Steamroll Iran worse than we did Iraq both times.

They aren't giving us this much "trubble" *cough*

The fucking insurgents aren't even Iraqis...

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:56 pm
by Ouchyfish
Harrison wrote:We would Steamroll Iran worse than we did Iraq both times. The fucking insurgents aren't even Iraqis...


Fuckin A!

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:54 pm
by mappatazee
Word is this is Iran's President in 1979
<img src="http://www.emergentchaos.com//images/alleged-Ahmadinejad.jpg">

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:58 am
by Captain Insano
After israel is moved to downtown london can we move all the rags to the bottom of the atlantic?

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:01 am
by Ouchyfish
captain_insano wrote:After israel is moved to downtown london can we move all the rags to the bottom of the atlantic?


hahahaha :rofl:

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:09 am
by DangerPaul
Harrison wrote:
spazz wrote:We are not in the habbit of fighting with countries that can fight back. If iraq gives us this much trubble just think bout how much trubble nukes an army and who knows what else would give.


We would Steamroll Iran worse than we did Iraq both times.

They aren't giving us this much "trubble" *cough*

The fucking insurgents aren't even Iraqis...


Yeah, because we sure steamrolled Iraq... :ugh: we have been there almost threee years, WE TOTALLY KICKED THEIR ASSES !

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:17 am
by Goose_Man
Umm our military did...

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:32 am
by Ouchyfish
Between 19 March and 1 May 2003, Operation Iraqi Freedom cost the lives of approximately 201 coalition troops; 148 of these were Americans.

On the Iraqi side: a review and analysis of the available evidence shows that approximately 11,000 - 15,000 Iraqis, combatants and noncombatants, were killed in the course of major combat actions. (Iraqi casualties incurred after 20 April are not included in this estimate). Of the total number of Iraqi fatalities during the relevant period, approximately 30 percent (or between 3,200 - 4,300) were noncombatant civilians -- that is: civilians who did not take up arms

Now, skip ahead to today. We have lost what, 2000? Even if we had not killed another one of them fuckers since 2003 it is STILL AN ASSKICKING.

Add to the fact that we smoked an entire regime out of it's palace and either into a grave or into a spider hole and now a jail cell.

That is an asskicking. it's just a fucking shame that society today is filled with motherfucking PUSSIES that cannot handle the cold hard facts of war. I thank GOD that your motherfucking ilk wasn't around or in power back during WWII to hold us back from kicking the ass we kicked. ("OMFG LOOK AT THE LOSSES IN NORMANDY--GET OUT OF EUROPE NOW!!!! NOW!!!!!!")

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:28 am
by DangerPaul
You guys must be missing my point. I am not whining about the war, I am not whining about loss of human life. I am stating we did not "steamroll" them. A steamrolling would have been wiping Afganistan off the face of the eart, then two weeks later doing the same to Iraq. Our troops playing with their dicks for three years and us still losing troops to suicide blasts was not a steam rolling. Turning the middle east into a parking lot in a month's time would have been a steam roll.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:55 pm
by Spazz
Thats the right on dangerpaul.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:11 pm
by Ouchyfish
DangerPaul wrote:You guys must be missing my point. I am not whining about the war, I am not whining about loss of human life. I am stating we did not "steamroll" them. A steamrolling would have been wiping Afganistan off the face of the eart, then two weeks later doing the same to Iraq. Our troops playing with their dicks for three years and us still losing troops to suicide blasts was not a steam rolling. Turning the middle east into a parking lot in a month's time would have been a steam roll.


It is not a conventional war where we go over there, smack the shit out of them and then they surrender then we go home a la Germany or Japan. Nowadays we have to go places, smack the shit out of them, and then hold their hands while they get their shit straight enough for us to leave. We learned that lesson from Vietnam.

Back to the original point though, we steamrolled them and now we just have to step on the roaches as they run out from under the fridges. Some of the roaches are explosive though.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:22 pm
by Spazz
On a side note i sure am glad we had all that money layin around to pay for this war occupation and rebuilding. Woulda really sucked if we couldnt afford it.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:32 pm
by Harrison
DangerPaul wrote:You guys must be missing my point. I am not whining about the war, I am not whining about loss of human life. I am stating we did not "steamroll" them. A steamrolling would have been wiping Afganistan off the face of the eart, then two weeks later doing the same to Iraq. Our troops playing with their dicks for three years and us still losing troops to suicide blasts was not a steam rolling. Turning the middle east into a parking lot in a month's time would have been a steam roll.


I've always pictured you to be more intelligent than this.

We steamrolled them.

Their military/regime got their assholes ripped open via American cock (much bigger than middle eastern sandy weiners) with some help from european weiners...

NOW we're dealing with FOREIGN insurgents from other countries that are now committing suicide attacks and roadside bombings from afar. Hardly the same as what we faced in the initial invasion...

That is a different issue entirely. It does not even relate to the actual war we fought on the way in anymore.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:15 pm
by Tikker
OuchyFish wrote:That is an asskicking. it's just a fucking shame that society today is filled with motherfucking PUSSIES that cannot handle the cold hard facts of war. I thank GOD that your motherfucking ilk wasn't around or in power back during WWII to hold us back from kicking the ass we kicked. ("OMFG LOOK AT THE LOSSES IN NORMANDY--GET OUT OF EUROPE NOW!!!! NOW!!!!!!")


you mean like the pussies that sat on the sidelines for the first 3 years of world warII?

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:27 pm
by Minrott
That was a stratedgy we should have used in Iraq. We didn't believe Hitler was a threat to us until then. Then we responded with overwhelming force and total commitment to winning.

Ever since then, our stratedgy has be more like "well, they could be a threat, lets fuck with them a bit."

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:21 pm
by KaiineTN
Has anyone seen the British video footage of when the Nazi SS officers were forced to handle all the corpses? The mass graves and such.. Heh.. well... I suppose it's possible that the 6 million figure is an exaggeration, but the shit definitely happened >_<

Check out this link: http://www.genocidewatch.org/8stages.htm

The United States is already on Stage 5 for gays! ;p

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:48 am
by Ouchyfish
Tikker wrote:
OuchyFish wrote:That is an asskicking. it's just a fucking shame that society today is filled with motherfucking PUSSIES that cannot handle the cold hard facts of war. I thank GOD that your motherfucking ilk wasn't around or in power back during WWII to hold us back from kicking the ass we kicked. ("OMFG LOOK AT THE LOSSES IN NORMANDY--GET OUT OF EUROPE NOW!!!! NOW!!!!!!")


you mean like the pussies that sat on the sidelines for the first 3 years of world warII?


Ahem, when you can speak from a superior country let me know. Canadian opinions of the U.S. past or present is at best nothing more than snide jealousy.

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:12 am
by Yamori
We're peacekeeping in Iraq, which is the cause of the long occupation time. Actually getting a strong military presence in and overthrowing their old government there didn't take very long.

I'm pretty sure the US army could "steamroll" Iran if they simply wanted to leave it a flaming wreck (ie: nuclear crisis retaliation).