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THE CHINESE military is trying to penetrate US government and industry computer networks, the head of a security institute claims.

Alan Paller, the director of the SANS Institute, an education and research organisation focusing on cybersecurity said a number of attacks had been traced to the Chinese province of Guangdong.

He said that the techniques the hackers have been using make it unlikely that they have came from any other source than the military.

Paller said that the attacks are carried out by someone with intense discipline, which is something rarely seen in hacker outfits normally.

He said that during the attacks, the perpetrators "were in and out with no keystroke errors and left no fingerprints, and created a backdoor in less than 30 minutes. Paller said the US government was downplaying the attacks, which had not helped the situation.

Things that had been taken included US military flight planning software from its Redstone Arsenal, he said.

w3 must bomb China

The chinks need another flood. Maybe we could help the weather there since supposedly we are capable of creating hurricanes and all.

OuchyFish wrote:The chinks need another flood. Maybe we could help the weather there since supposedly we are capable of creating hurricanes and all.

This kind of opinion is all to common around here these days.

Hey Ouchy, what a clever sig. Are you comparing World War II to the Iraq occupation? Cause if you are, youre dumb.

This whole thing would not suprise me. Frankly we need to unjail a few of the hackers we have put away over the years for some counter attacks.


OH YEAH baby....Im thinking Mitnick

I have read that quite a few government agencies have given partial pardons to certain arrested hackors when they are caught. Frankly it makes sense. It takes a thief to catch a thief.

Some of the military's information warfare aggressor teams I've seen have been pretty impressive.

No worries. They have McDonalds there too. They're as fucked as we are.

-Out

maybe if we just bomb about 10 miles off the coast we can create lots of tidal waves.....

mofish wrote:Hey Ouchy, what a clever sig. Are you comparing World War II to the Iraq occupation? Cause if you are, youre dumb.

What a shock. You twisted it to fit your political scheme.

The point is, you candy ass liberals want to cry about 2k fallen soldiers over a 2 year+ period and scream about how badly we're "losing" when we lost twice that many in one fucking day.

No, Iraq isn't WWII, but the cause (pull a crazy ass dictator out of power and cease their hostilities) remains the same and unfortunately for you bleeding heart liberals it is finally bearing the fruits of democracy.

As for Zanchief, I wouldn't expect anything else to dribble out of his pansy canadian mouth. He believes we should all be running around like hippies and using leaves as currency. (A perk of having the United States protect you so you don't have to deal with this shit.)

Kinda like a little kid having no comprehension of how toys cost money. All they know is some magical force gets them the toy while having no care as to what it took to work for the money.

Fuck liberal candy ass cretins. Thank God we have a president with balls.

Harrison wrote:http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28356

THE CHINESE military is trying to penetrate US government and industry computer networks, the head of a security institute claims.

Alan Paller, the director of the SANS Institute, an education and research organisation focusing on cybersecurity said a number of attacks had been traced to the Chinese province of Guangdong.

He said that the techniques the hackers have been using make it unlikely that they have came from any other source than the military.

Paller said that the attacks are carried out by someone with intense discipline, which is something rarely seen in hacker outfits normally.

He said that during the attacks, the perpetrators "were in and out with no keystroke errors and left no fingerprints, and created a backdoor in less than 30 minutes. Paller said the US government was downplaying the attacks, which had not helped the situation.

Things that had been taken included US military flight planning software from its Redstone Arsenal, he said.

This is not a big problem. They just saw a pirated copy of War Games. Now, they just want to play tic-tac-toe with the norad computer.

Maybe its not about how many died its about what they are dieing for ya fuckin moron.

spazz wrote:Maybe its not about how many died its about what they are dieing for ya fuckin moron.

Seems like the same fucking cause to me, you pansy ass liberal.

Didn't Clinton give them the security codes when he gave them all those secrets?

If you think nazi germanny and iraq are the same cause youve lost your god damn mind. And im far from a pansy liberal I have a lot of very conservitive views.

spazz wrote:If you think nazi germanny and iraq are the same cause youve lost your god damn mind.

Same concept, different scale.

We didn't just chase the Germans back to Germany and stop at their borders did we? Last time I checked, we didn't.

In fact, we have accomplished a helluva lot more in Iraq than we did in Germany. No East and West Iraq. Just one free nation with a ready-made democracy and accomplishing in 2 or so years what it took us 200 years to do.

...and before any of the stupid sonofabitching canadians chime in with their weak ass shit, remember you aren't jack shit without us.

OuchyFish wrote:

spazz wrote:Maybe its not about how many died its about what they are dieing for ya fuckin moron.

Seems like the same fucking cause to me, you pansy ass liberal.

Uh... no?

Germany was a warmongering superpower that had devoured half of Europe, and was trying to expand further. It systematically murdered millions of innocent people for no real reason. To leave this unimpeded would have been a global disaster, and would be a political/economic nightmare for the US (ie: trade embargos from a huge chunk of the civilized world, high risk for drawn out warfare and hostility) - since Hitler openly named the US as an enemy early on.

versus...

A crappy middleastern country that is only worthwhile because it has oil. It has a crazy dictator who hamhandedly tried to invade its neighbor and was *suspected* of holding WMDs.

WW2 was a war of necessity, Iraq is a war of political convenience. Thinking any war has to do with benevolence to oppressed peoples with no political and economic agenda behind it is pretty naive - liberation is just something the politicians talk about to gain the public's favor.

It's not a matter of scale, it's a matter of actual agenda.

Yamori wrote:Germany was a warmongering superpower that had devoured half of Europe, and was trying to expand further. It systematically murdered millions of innocent people for no real reason. To leave this unimpeded would have been a global disaster, and would be a political/economic nightmare for the US (ie: trade embargos from a huge chunk of the civilized world, high risk for drawn out warfare and hostility) - since Hitler openly named the US as an enemy early on.

Actually, Iraq is also a warmongering country who was trying to dominate a region (invasion of Kuwait and Iran) like Germany. It also murdered innocent people( the kurds). Saddam Hussein also named US as an enemy early on.

Although, I wouldnt compare Hussein and Iraq to Hitler and Nazi Germany but the similarity is there.

I'm sure the US military doesn't hack other people's military computer network~

Phlegm wrote:

Yamori wrote:Germany was a warmongering superpower that had devoured half of Europe, and was trying to expand further. It systematically murdered millions of innocent people for no real reason. To leave this unimpeded would have been a global disaster, and would be a political/economic nightmare for the US (ie: trade embargos from a huge chunk of the civilized world, high risk for drawn out warfare and hostility) - since Hitler openly named the US as an enemy early on.

Actually, Iraq is also a warmongering country who was trying to dominate a region (invasion of Kuwait and Iran) like Germany. It also murdered innocent people( the kurds). Saddam Hussein also named US as an enemy early on.

Although, I wouldnt compare Hussein and Iraq to Hitler and Nazi Germany but the similarity is there.

True, but as I said at the bottom of my first post, it's not a matter of "scale" (because there are plenty of immoral countries that we haven't invaded to liberate their populaces) - it's the matter of actual political motivation for the invasion.

Yamori wrote:True, but as I said at the bottom of my first post, it's not a matter of "scale" (because there are plenty of immoral countries that we haven't invaded to liberate their populaces) - it's the matter of actual political motivation for the invasion.

You have a point, but this argument quickly turns into republican vs. democrat any time you try to discuss it and regresses further into a nuh-uh yeah huh argument slowly thereafter.

I know we went there probably because of Bush's beef with Hussein, but the bottom line is that everyone bought the same bullshit intel so all of the politicians are guilty. The dems want to play some kinda half-assed hindsight political game with it now. Do you honestly think that in the end a great good was not done? In this case the end justified the means and for the most part the only people that disagree with that are the same hippy tree hugging faggot assed pansies that tried to destroy our military during the Clinton administration. (If you weren't in the military to see it first hand during that time, all the fuck you know is what the fuck you HEARD on some Clinton-adoring media shit spoon. I, for the record, was.)

Bottom line is that we went in and removed a murdering dictator and replaced his regime with a democratic government. At this point I couldn't give two fucks less how or why we got there, because I am just tickled as hell that I don't have to see that grinning raghead son of a bitch on tv anymore except for when he has to show up for court. Should we do the same to the rest of the murdering dictators out there? Sure, if they can pull the kind of shit that Saddam did.

Over 2000 U.S. servicemembers gave their lives for that what became the final cause and years from now, God willing, we might just have an ally in that neck of the woods other than a jewbag state that every motherfucker in the area hates with a bitter passion-and sometimes I wonder if it isn't for a pretty good reason. Iraqis are turning in terrorists and if you can turn off your media outlets long enough to discuss the issue with folks who actually have been there, lived there, live there, or have family there, you will see that we aren't as hated or despised as the Democrats would love to make you believe.