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Ontogeny recapitulates Phylogeny
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:15 pm
by The Kizzy
Please discuss.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:23 pm
by Tae-Bo
discredited and untrue
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:47 pm
by The Kizzy
are you sure about that?
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:51 pm
by Tae-Bo
yes
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:55 pm
by The Kizzy
ok

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:56 pm
by Zanchief
His argument does seem pretty conclusive.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:56 pm
by The Kizzy
yeah, lol
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:58 pm
by Tae-Bo
p.s. im talkin about haeckel's theory not the modern interpretation P.S. welcome to bio 100
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:05 pm
by The Kizzy
its Bio 2210, and its Gaskin's theory, and we had a very very interesting lecture last night, which is why I brought it up. My professor said "fucking" in class, it was great.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:08 pm
by Tae-Bo
hmm gl in bio
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:15 pm
by The Kizzy
thanks, now why do you not believe this theory, its pretty straight forward, cut and dry
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:22 pm
by Tae-Bo
because humans dont progress through the evolutionary process from embryo to birth
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:23 pm
by xaoshaen
The Kizzy wrote:its Bio 2210, and its Gaskin's theory, and we had a very very interesting lecture last night, which is why I brought it up. My professor said "fucking" in class, it was great.
Recapitulation was Haekel's theory. Did Gaskin modify it or have his own take on it? Like Duck said, it's been thoroughly discredited in its literal form. There are some links between embryo development and species development, but the latter doesn't replicate the former.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:24 pm
by xaoshaen
D. Duck wrote:because humans dont progress through the evolutionary process from embryo to birth
Not to mention minor details like imbalanced organ development.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:27 pm
by Tacks
Why would you even begin to think it's true? It's already been proven wrong. With technology available today it's not considered anything more than an old farce. Notice the word "theory" again here. You know by now what a theory is right?
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:29 pm
by Tae-Bo
sigh im going to class bye
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:32 pm
by Tacks
bye
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:40 pm
by The Kizzy
I guess this version is modified, basically shows that fossils found in the earth's layers follow the progression of a human embryo. Not that humans progress through the evolutionary process.
It was something that made you sit back and go, hmmmm........ very interesting stuff.
Think about it.
Layers of the earth are Molten Core, then no life (before a woman gets pregnant)
First life and layer on earth were one celled organisms like foraminiferans (think that was the word) {much like the fertilized egg is a one celled organism}
so on and so forth
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:40 pm
by xaoshaen
The Kizzy wrote:I guess this version is modified, basically shows that fossils found in the earth's layers follow the progression of a human embryo. Not that humans progress through the evolutionary process.
That would be phylogeny recapitulating ontogeny, which doesn't make any sense at all. You can't claim that the fossil record follows the embryonic growth of a human, when the fossil record necessarily existed before humanity.
It was something that made you sit back and go, hmmmm........ very interesting stuff.
Think about it.
Layers of the earth are Molten Core, then no life (before a woman gets pregnant)
First life and layer on earth were one celled organisms like foraminiferans (think that was the word) {much like the fertilized egg is a one celled organism}
so on and so forth
If that's an accurate representation of your professor's lecture, I'd sue your school.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:44 pm
by The Kizzy
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, I however do not agree. I do not underatnd how you can debate what fossils have been found in different layers of the earth. Makes no sense.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:49 pm
by xaoshaen
The Kizzy wrote:That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, I however do not agree. I do not underatnd how you can debate what fossils have been found in different layers of the earth. Makes no sense.
Which part is my opinion? Ontogeny doesn't recapitulate phylogeny. The doctrine's been discredited for quite some time now. Phylogeny
can't recapitulate ontogeny simply because of the temporal discord. I never actually said anything about which fossils have been found in which layer of earth, but attempting to relate earth's geology to the gestation process is ridiculous. It may make an interesting metaphor, but there's absolutely no true correllation between the two.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:53 pm
by Tacks
Oh cool, so now we're evolved from the FOSSILS of our dead bodies? liek whoa~
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:57 pm
by Captain Insano
how exactly does the flying spaghetti monster fit into all of this?
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:00 pm
by Lyion
It proves the source of intelligent design is Olive Garden.
It likewise proves trying to determine our history based on indentations in rock is about as useful as mens nipples.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:00 pm
by Tacks
The Kizzy wrote:That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, I however do not agree. I do not underatnd how you can debate what fossils have been found in different layers of the earth. Makes no sense.
You need to re-read what he said.