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Crack Tax

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:22 am
by Lyion
http://www.wbir.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=31556

:wtf:

Well, I guess its worse to go to jail for tax evasion, than drugs...

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:25 am
by Thon
if we started taxing crack/coke/heroin/weed/meth/etc nationally, we could rebuild Iraq and New Orleans on the moon by next year

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:07 am
by Kramer
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:09 am
by Kramer
that all sounds totally above the board.... NO ROOM for corruption in a system where the dealers pay confidentially and someone gives them a stamp....

oh to be a stamp distributor... more lucrative than being a drug dealer...

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:25 am
by Captain Insano
Thon wrote:if we started taxing crack/coke/heroin/weed/meth/etc nationally, we could rebuild Iraq and New Orleans on the moon by next year



hahaha

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:42 am
by Arlos
Heh, just counting $$$ spent on the DEA and on jails to keep users and a few sellers behind bars, and not counting any taxation revenue we'd get by legalizing drugs, the "War On Drugs" costs the taxpayer over $200billion per year at present, and that number keeps going up.

So, yeah, if we were to legalize stuff and tax it, we could pretty much pay off the national debt in a decade.

-Arlos

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:47 pm
by Spazz
If drugs were legal everyone would be on them and all hell would break loose dont ya know.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:57 pm
by Kramer
it would be like legalizing CIGARETTES or ALCOHOL!!!!!! OMG!!!!!! :eyecrazy: :eyecrazy: :eyecrazy: :eyecrazy:

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:03 pm
by Spazz
WE MUST PROTECT THE CHILDREN !!!!!!

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:34 pm
by Kramer
and, i bet everyone who was smart enough not to completely destroy their life with drugs in the first place.... would suddenly feel compelled beyond their control to start using them.... that day.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:06 pm
by Spazz
WHAT WILL STOP THE CHILDREN FROM USING DRUGS IF THEY CAN GET THEM AT EVERY 7-11 WE MUST PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AT ALL COSTS

im just bein sarcastic tho i think the drug war is a huge waste of money and its a war fought on our own sons brothers daughters mothers etc

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:42 pm
by kaharthemad
i agree with Arlos and spazz. We need to get rid of the drug war. No, I can honestly I would not touch the shit if you could buy it, but I think that would be the only way to fix the growing drug war problems...make it so just baout anyone can afford it, tax the shit out of it, and lokie here!!!The drug cartels are out of biz.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:44 pm
by Jay
If they tax drugs then paraphenalia (sp?) is a tax writeoff for business expense?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:07 pm
by brinstar
lol


FYI we have the drug tax stamp law here in nebraska too, although i don't think it's very well-enforced

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:12 pm
by Arlos
That's actually how the federal government made pot illegal. The federal government has the right to regulate commerce. Well, in order to legally sell marijuana, you need a tax stamp/seal from the government. However, there's nothing, anywhere, that says that they have to give ANYONE such a stamp/seal. Thus, without being in possession of said governmental approval stamp, it is illegal to sell pot, and since no one anywhere has one, therefore if someone IS in possession of marijuana, it must have been obtained illegally.

I am in complete agreement that the "War on Drugs" is an utter farce and complete failure, as bad or worse than Prohibition ever was. Look what prohibition did, made a product the public wanted illegal, demand didn't go away, and thus it became profitable enough for criminals to organize to distribute the product. That's how the Mafia got going in the US. There were turf wars and murders over distribution and sale of the illegal product, crime skyrocketed, etc. We can see the exact parallel today. Crime & drive-bys over distribution and sale of illegal product, organized crime groups forming to streamline the production and sale, etc.

We abolish the war on drugs, then slap a tax on everything, and the government would make money hand over fist. (Taxes can't be TOO onerous though, or people will go right back to illegal sources if they're significantly enough cheaper than legal supplies.) Could use the income to not only balance the budget, but if you could fund a REAL national PPO health insurance program as well, and do away with Medicare as a result. Make high schools teach a semester long health class freshman year, which not only does the usual crap it does now, but goes in depth on drug education, including risks & hazards. Hell, numerous studies have shown that if you really want to get people off of drugs, it is 10x as efficient to spend it on education and treatment than on interdiction and enforcement.

-Arlos

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:13 pm
by Kramer
Nebraska?

what, like 42 people live in Nebraska when the Univesity isn't in session....

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:05 pm
by Goose_Man
Im all for making ALL drugs legal and taxing them.

I wouldnt do any but there are plenty of retards out there who would. Talk about a glut of money! We could lower property tax and sales tax with all the cash we would be raking in...

three cheers for legal and taxed drugs!!!!!!

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:39 pm
by Ouchyfish
Til my dying day I will not understand how we can legalize alcohol and make drugs illegal.

It just seems like the theory behind one would be the same for the other.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:00 pm
by Minrott
That's actually how the federal government made pot illegal. The federal government has the right to regulate commerce. Well, in order to legally sell marijuana, you need a tax stamp/seal from the government. However, there's nothing, anywhere, that says that they have to give ANYONE such a stamp/seal. Thus, without being in possession of said governmental approval stamp, it is illegal to sell pot, and since no one anywhere has one, therefore if someone IS in possession of marijuana, it must have been obtained illegally.



Interstate Commerce is half the power of Congress' legislation ability. Can't get around the constitution? Just say it effects interstate commerce! There are a number of things that have no constitutional reason to be "illegal" yet are, because their sale or transport across state lines has been deemed to effect interstate commerce. This is why machine guns made after 1986 cannot be legally obtained (You CAN purchase a tax stamp for pre-86 ones).

It's an extremely powerful bit of legislation that allows precidence for Congress do make a law saying anything they want is illegal, whether unconstitutional or not.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:08 pm
by LostCause
spazz wrote:WE MUST PROTECT THE CHILDREN !!!!!!



Hah there the problem now a days

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:30 pm
by Harrison
LostCause wrote:
spazz wrote:WE MUST PROTECT THE CHILDREN !!!!!!



Hah there the problem now a days


They're

You fucking retard...

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:33 pm
by KILL
... coming from the guy who has typed "noone" more times than i can remember :boots:

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:35 pm
by Harrison
There are good chances I was drunk off my ass and the sentence didn't make sense anyways.

He's just an idiot, plain and simple.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:45 pm
by araby
yall this is the devil's talk

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:47 pm
by KILL
if being drunk is your excuse for misspelled words and bad grammar, you might want to consider alcoholics anonymous