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NFL draft, WR's
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:14 pm
by Tikker
Any idea which WR's will be available late late in the first round?
after winning the SB, i think Randle El will be gone via free agency, and it'll basically be the gaping hole they'll need to fill
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:49 pm
by Phlegm
Replacing Randle El as a receiver is not hard since he is just an average one. Just look at his numbers. The Steelers can use one of their current receivers for that. Replacing Randle El as a kick returner and a part time passer will be a lot harder.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:06 pm
by Tikker
Phlegm wrote:Replacing Randle El as a receiver is not hard since he is just an average one. Just look at his numbers. The Steelers can use one of their current receivers for that. Replacing Randle El as a kick returner and a part time passer will be a lot harder.
eh, numbers aren't that important really, it's more the deep threat/utility threat
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:11 pm
by Phlegm
utility thread...yes.
deep thread...no. Randle El is not a deep thread since he doesnt have the speed for it.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:53 pm
by Lyion
Honestly, I don't think losing Randle El is a big deal. He's not a strong route runner, and you can teach gadget plays to others fairly easily.
Ward is and reamins their stud at WR, and Wilson is as good as Randle El.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:53 pm
by Tikker
Phlegm wrote:utility thread...yes.
deep thread...no. Randle El is not a deep thread since he doesnt have the speed for it.
he's got sub 4.5 speed which while not blazing fast, is pretty decent
I think it's the combination of the abilities that makes him important
if all he could do was gadget plays, you could defense it fairly easily
but he can go deep if he catches a corner/safety cheating/napping, and coupled with his ability to run, and throw on the run is what makes him dangerous
It's too bad plaxico burress didn't have Randle El's drive and determination. he'd have been awesome
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:43 am
by Spliffs
Santonio Holmes is the only WR going in the first round, from the projections i've read. It should be late too, although I don't know if it will be at the end where Pittsburgh is picking. This is a weak weak year for WR's.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:04 am
by Phlegm
I think the Steeler is more likely to draft a running back than a wide receiver.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:13 am
by Tikker
why would they draft a running back?
between Parker, Staley and Haynes they really don't need much
A real wide receiver makes more sense (or maybe a safety, I'm hearing they may lose Chris Hope)
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:26 am
by Phlegm
Tikker wrote:why would they draft a running back?
between Parker, Staley and Haynes they really don't need much
A real wide receiver makes more sense (or maybe a safety, I'm hearing they may lose Chris Hope)
Staley hasn't play regularly for two years and Hayes is an unrestricted free agent. While Parker is an exclusive-rights free agent.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:38 am
by Phlegm
Spliffs wrote:Santonio Holmes is the only WR going in the first round, from the projections i've read. It should be late too, although I don't know if it will be at the end where Pittsburgh is picking. This is a weak weak year for WR's.
Supposely there are three wide receivers worthy of a first round pick: Santonio Holmes Ohio State, Chad Jackson Florida, and Sinorice Moss Miami.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:58 am
by Tikker
Phlegm wrote:Tikker wrote:why would they draft a running back?
between Parker, Staley and Haynes they really don't need much
A real wide receiver makes more sense (or maybe a safety, I'm hearing they may lose Chris Hope)
Staley hasn't play regularly for two years and Hayes is an unrestricted free agent. While Parker is an exclusive-rights free agent.
all 3 will be back, barring the CBA not getting done
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:10 am
by Lyion
Staley is not reliable. Hayes is a third down back. That leaves Parker as Pitts only every down back.
You really don't need to draft a RB high to get quality, but I expect Pitt to look at some in the later rounds.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:14 am
by Tikker
eh? how is duce not reliable?
He just had the misfortune of getting a bit dinged up early, then being a casualty of the coach riding a hot running back
I expect him to slide into Bettis's role of the last couple years with Parker carrying the majority of the load with Haynes coming in on 3rd down and the occassional series here and there
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:29 am
by Lyion
I don't know the stats, but I just remember him always being dinged up a lot in Philly, and his time in Pitt has been similar.
I'd put money on him at least missing 3-5 games this year due to being hurt.
Pitt isn't hurting at RB, but I do expect them to look at some other guys.
The club I'm curious about is Balt. Are they going to keep Jamal, look at a free agent RB, make Taylor there main man, or go via the draft. I'm also curious who they'll bring in to compete with Boller.
Cinci also has some QB decisions, but they'd be silly not to offer Kitna a lil green & a signing bonus for a few year deal.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:30 am
by Thon
detroit will be spending its picks on WR's

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:12 am
by Tikker
lyion wrote:The club I'm curious about is Balt. Are they going to keep Jamal, look at a free agent RB, make Taylor there main man, or go via the draft. I'm also curious who they'll bring in to compete with Boller.
Word on the street is they're very interested in Drew Brees. a QB good enough to make the defenses play honest, and they're a 10 win team again, np
as for duce
Duce's Career stats
he's played all 16 games 5/9 years, 13 and 10 games, and 2 major injury years of 5 games
He's also caught 40+ passes 5 times
I dunno, I think that playing the bettis role will reduce the wear and tear on him, and let him put up 400ish yards and 10 TD's
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:56 pm
by Spliffs
Phlegm wrote:Spliffs wrote:Santonio Holmes is the only WR going in the first round, from the projections i've read. It should be late too, although I don't know if it will be at the end where Pittsburgh is picking. This is a weak weak year for WR's.
Supposely there are three wide receivers worthy of a first round pick: Santonio Holmes Ohio State, Chad Jackson Florida, and Sinorice Moss Miami.
Won't happen. Maybe two, but I doubt it. This is the weakest WR crop in several years.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:44 pm
by Phlegm
Most of the mock drafts have the Steelers taking Mangold out of Ohio State since Hartings is getting old.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:29 pm
by Tikker
I think he'd be a good fit
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:49 pm
by Lyion
Tim Dwight would be a nice replacement for Randle El. A guy who can return, be a good third WR, and is a deep threat.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:08 pm
by Tikker
I'm secretly hoping the steelers will get TO
no really
ok, so not really