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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:30 am
by Guntaag Gorefeast
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5428121

Sheriff: Parents accused of kidnapping daughter upset over boyfriend's race


SALEM, N.H. A sheriff in Maine says a couple accused of tying up their 19-year-old daughter and driving her to get an abortion was upset because the baby's father is black.

The sheriff says he was told by Katelyn Kampf that her mother "was pretty irate" about it.

Kampf escaped Friday at a New Hampshire shopping center and called police.

Police say her parents were apparently taking their daughter to New York to try to force her to get an abortion there.

The parents were arraigned yesterday on kidnapping charges. Investigators say rope, duct tape, scissors and a 22-caliber rifle were found in the car.

The judge set bail at 100-thousand dollars each and has ordered the Kampfs to have no contact with their daughter.

The couple's attorney has said there was no evidence the parents threatened their daughter or her unborn child.


I like the quote at the end ;P

Should these parents be tried for attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder? I am foggy as to what an unborn child is technically (and,please,this isnt an abortion debate). I mean,if a person shot a pregnant woman and the fetus also died,would it be considered two murders? In my head yes but as far as the law is concerned? I thought this article brought up some pretty interesting points. Well,not the article, but the case i mean~

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:03 am
by Gaazy
I think they should be tried to the max extent of the law for kidnapping~

I would really fucking hate to be around my house if my sister ever had a black guy even come home with them, much less impregnated by one. Dad would flip shit, and I would probably go to jail :ugh:

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:17 am
by Jay
Even if it was Michael Jordan or Denzel Washington?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:23 am
by Darcler
There was a high profile case a while back that caused a law to be passed that if you kill a pregnant woman and the baby dies, you're charged twice. The baby gets it's own charge.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:29 am
by Zanchief
Darcler wrote:There was a high profile case a while back that caused a law to be passed that if you kill a pregnant woman and the baby dies, you're charged twice. The baby gets it's own charge.


How does that make any sense?

So it's not a person if it gets aborted but it is if it get murdered? YAY double standard.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:30 am
by Darcler
/shrug
I didn't pass the law.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:31 am
by Tikker
Zanchief wrote:
Darcler wrote:There was a high profile case a while back that caused a law to be passed that if you kill a pregnant woman and the baby dies, you're charged twice. The baby gets it's own charge.


How does that make any sense?

So it's not a person if it gets aborted but it is if it get murdered? YAY double standard.


I think it depends on the stage of pregnancy

ie, if it's at the stage where the baby could have survived outside the womb, then it counts as murder

if it's still in the first couple months, it's not

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:32 am
by Zanchief
Darcler wrote:/shrug
I didn't pass the law.


That's exactly what someone who HAD passed the law would say.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:35 am
by Phlegm
Government sanction killings are not murder.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:36 am
by Darcler
Laci and Connor's Law

Passed by Bush

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:35 pm
by Ginzburgh
I would really fucking hate to be around my house if my sister ever had a black guy even come home with them, much less impregnated by one. Dad would flip shit, and I would probably go to jail


Hey, at least you know you're a racist. :dunno:

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:45 pm
by Martrae
Everyone's a Little Bit Racist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JnHhaBpnS4

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:51 pm
by Guntaag Gorefeast
Darcler wrote:
/shrug
I didn't pass the law.


That's exactly what someone who HAD passed the law would say.


er, commenting on the lieing nature of politicians? I mean, if youre a right to choose kinda person, you could say if the woman choses to kill/keep the fetus (baby/human) its their call. But if someone makes that call for them thats murder. You give a right with the right to chose, and you deny someone their right by killing their unborn child. Id like to assume, partisan ideology aside, that anyone in a position to pass a law (laws) like that could explain their position.

The whole topic disturbs me anyways. fucking quebecois.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:51 pm
by Jimmy Durante
Ginzburgh wrote:
I would really fucking hate to be around my house if my sister ever had a black guy even come home with them, much less impregnated by one. Dad would flip shit, and I would probably go to jail


Hey, at least you know you're a racist. :dunno:


Location: West by god Virginia

Par for the course.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:21 pm
by Ginzburgh
Everyone's a Little Bit Racist


True, but not to the point where you would vehemently oppose (to the point of physical violence) a family member falling in love with someone that's a different color.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:42 pm
by Gaazy
Racist? Is that new news?

I dont want me sisters to date black guys because I see how they treat all my friends. Just so happens i know a million more girls who are mistreated by black guys than white guys. My hate for *most* (not all, I do know some good black folk) black people is brought on themselves through their constant bullshit with drugs, robbings, shootings, or whatever...its not like I woke up one morning and said "im gonna hate black folk, by god". It's turning on the TV and seeing another drug bust, or leaving the bar and walking down the street to see someone gettin jumped and mugged by 3 of them. Not saying white people dont do this shit too, because they do..but no one here can honestly tell me its not 90% black.

As far as violence goes, I won't be violent until someone lays a finger on my sister or takes advantage of her, whether it be a black, white, asian, or purple, im going to beat the everliving shit out of them.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:04 pm
by Ginzburgh
White power!

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:15 pm
by Zanchief
Gaazy wrote:Racist? Is that new news?

I dont want me sisters to date black guys because I see how they treat all my friends. Just so happens i know a million more girls who are mistreated by black guys than white guys. My hate for *most* (not all, I do know some good black folk) black people is brought on themselves through their constant bullshit with drugs, robbings, shootings, or whatever...its not like I woke up one morning and said "im gonna hate black folk, by god". It's turning on the TV and seeing another drug bust, or leaving the bar and walking down the street to see someone gettin jumped and mugged by 3 of them. Not saying white people dont do this shit too, because they do..but no one here can honestly tell me its not 90% black.

As far as violence goes, I won't be violent until someone lays a finger on my sister or takes advantage of her, whether it be a black, white, asian, or purple, im going to beat the everliving shit out of them.


Speaking of great parents.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:17 pm
by Martrae
So sayeth the people that rarely see any blacks......

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:19 pm
by Zanchief
And you know this because, at the very least, you've been to Canada.

OH WAIT...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:21 pm
by Darcler
I went to Canada for 26 minutes. I am the supreme authority on all things Canadian now.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:28 pm
by Martrae
Hey...it's just like you know about all things American...at least I can say I've been to Canada several times. Can you say the same for the US?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:30 pm
by Ginzburgh
And err...there are plenty of blacks in Connecticut. Am I racist? Sure, in a cheeky manner. Would it ever prompt me to attack a black guy that my sister is dating based soley on the fact that he is black? No, I'm not a fucking ignorant savage.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:32 pm
by Spazz
Id make black jokes at em though.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:36 pm
by Lyion
Martrae wrote:Hey...it's just like you know about all things American...at least I can say I've been to Canada several times. Can you say the same for the US?


He watched the NBA. He listens to Chuck Barkeley. What else is there? :dunno: