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Martyrs in for a rude awakening?

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:07 pm
by Phlegm
All they may get are grapes and not virgins.


For example, the Koran says martyrs going to heaven will get hur, and the word was taken by early commentators to mean "virgins," hence those 72 consorts. But in Aramaic, hur meant "white" and was commonly used to mean "white grapes."

Some martyrs arriving in paradise may regard a bunch of grapes as a letdown. But the scholar who pioneered this pathbreaking research, using the pseudonym Christoph Luxenberg for security reasons, noted in an e-mail interview that grapes made more sense in context because the Koran compares them to crystal and pearls, and because contemporary accounts have paradise abounding with fruit, especially white grapes.



http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editori ... 2003181944

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:09 pm
by Jay
I read that as Martrae was going to heaven to get virgins at first.

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:10 pm
by Martrae
LOL

I caught a virgin once...I threw him back.

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:15 pm
by Jay
What about the virgin that you're married to?

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:49 pm
by Evermore
She is married to Kahar not you Jay.

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:50 pm
by Martrae
He definitely wasn't a virgin.

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:54 pm
by Darcler
Gay sex doesnt count :wink:

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:55 pm
by Martrae
Curses!

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:22 pm
by Evermore
:owned: :bowdown:

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:04 pm
by Jay
Evermore wrote:She is married to Kahar not you Jay.


Wait you mean dry humping doesn't count?

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:01 pm
by Gargamellow
oh god..hearing jay say dry hump fucks with my world

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:05 pm
by Darcler
Hearing anyone say dry hump makes me cringe. I hate that term. No, I just hate the word hump...thats what it is.

Also _ilk makes me feel weird...milk, silk etc.

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:15 pm
by Gargamellow
I am going to attend a few islam services here where I live in about a month when I get back into school. I can't wait to write that paper.

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:22 pm
by Evermore
Gargamellow wrote:I am going to attend a few islam services here where I live in about a month when I get back into school. I can't wait to write that paper.


im confused. you are writing a paper about islam people dry humping? you may just start a jihad

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:29 pm
by Gargamellow
heheh....I don't have time to struggle against the enemies of Islam. I need to think about other things.