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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MSFbhIG-sk

This report recently aired in the UK, and I found it a bit unnerving.

After pointing out to someone advocating the burning of the Quran that book burning was a method employed by fascists oppressive governments, I was told to read the Quran, which admittedly I have never done. Avoiding biased translations, I asked a Muslim I know what he thought a fair representation in English translations would be, and ordered it. I'm now about a quarter of the way through it and frankly I'm reserving judgment until I've completed the work simply because I don't believe I can form an accurate opinion of it without the perspective of the whole. While I tend to have a problem with parts of a whole as a conclusive example of an idea.. I found this video to be very disturbing. Regardless if parts of these speeches are argument or conclusion, I don't see how they could possibly be taken out of context to appear worse then they were.

Lueyen wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MSFbhIG-sk

This report recently aired in the UK, and I found it a bit unnerving.

After pointing out to someone advocating the burning of the Quran that book burning was a method employed by fascists oppressive governments, I was told to read the Quran, which admittedly I have never done. Avoiding biased translations, I asked a Muslim I know what he thought a fair representation in English translations would be, and ordered it. I'm now about a quarter of the way through it and frankly I'm reserving judgment until I've completed the work simply because I don't believe I can form an accurate opinion of it without the perspective of the whole. While I tend to have a problem with parts of a whole as a conclusive example of an idea.. I found this video to be very disturbing. Regardless if parts of these speeches are argument or conclusion, I don't see how they could possibly be taken out of context to appear worse then they were.

Dammit, the video was removed already

from the outside, all religions look pretty whacked

New links.. not sure why they changed

All 6 parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCLC8kjWCI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5t5EqWX92k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMztM0Z7BYE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zv3BUmwqs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvjvNScmTQA

Tikker wrote:from the outside, all religions look pretty whacked

Tikker I can only imagine the lather you'd work yourself into if these were Christian preachers in churches in what is considered main stream. If you haven't watched the videos please do and then come back and tell me that what you see gives you no cause for concern and you can easily dismiss what was said as being seemingly whacked due to viewing it from the outside. I can see where some of it might possibly have been taken out of context, but a lot of it would concern me in ANY context.

man I watched 2 of the vids so far..this shit scares me

I'm only on the second one. I have a very hard time watching this. Not because of the content, but because so much is spliced together to make it sound MUCH worse. There is a huge bias on this, and I hate watching one sided programs.
Like Lue, I will reserve judgement. This is not my religion and I dont know the whole of it. All I know of it are the pieces that people like to dredge up in arguements and stupid videos like this.
While the parts I have seen are bad, the same can be said of other religions. Bits and pieces of the Bible are pretty harsh as well. I've been to churches that have taught a pretty intolerant service.
I'll continue watching, but I have a huge feeling all this is being spliced into a bit being out of context.

Lueyen wrote:

Tikker wrote:from the outside, all religions look pretty whacked

Tikker I can only imagine the lather you'd work yourself into if these were Christian preachers in churches in what is considered main stream.

it wouldn't be any different

your invisible man in the sky isn't any different than their invisible man in the sky

What a bunch of evil bastards. I don't know the answer in how to deal with these lunatics, but if the entire non-muslim world turned against them, that may just be the only solution.