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Hillary vs. Obama
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:29 pm
by Phlegm
It's starting.
Hillary's team has questions about Obama's Muslim background.
This is the question Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s camp is asking about Sen. Barack Obama.
An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia.
"He was a Muslim, but he concealed it," the source said. "His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/flash_4.html
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:57 pm
by Zanchief
Wow that's pretty vile. Bigots like Finny are going to eat this up and it's going to work exactly as expected.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:44 pm
by Alphonso
like the average american will vote for a guy with the middle name Hussein even if it doesnt mean anything politically
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:51 pm
by Lionking
Most of us won't vote for him because HE HASN'T DONE A FUCKING THING IN HIS LIMITED POLITICAL CAREER YET THAT MAKES HIM A WORTHWHILE FUCKING CHOICE.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:53 pm
by Tikker
the all caps make me believe that you're a credible resource for political information
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:58 pm
by Lionking
Tikker wrote:the all caps make me believe that you're a credible resource for political information
Bah, just a little angst. Life is good now.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:06 pm
by Shneider
It doesn't change the fact that Obama has done nothing of any significance. Dems are playing the black guilt card to press their agenda.
POLITICIAN, n.
An eel in the fundamental mud upon which the superstructure of organized society is reared. When we wriggles he mistakes the agitation of his tail for the trembling of the edifice. As compared with the statesman, he suffers the disadvantage of being alive.
Anywho, Obama will fit right in...
If only the liberal media would do some real journalism and cover the lives of men like Clarence Thomas or Colin Powell.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:11 pm
by Zanchief
Shneider wrote:If only the liberal media would do some real journalism and cover the lives of men like Clarence Thomas or Colin Powell.
Here we go again...
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:13 pm
by Arlos
Oh yes, Clarence Thomas, the guy who sexually harassed his underling? Yeah, lets hold him up on a pedestal, sure. I do have SOME respect for Colin Powell, but he lost any chance of ever getting my vote with his pre-war work, including spouting stuff to the UN he had to know was incorrect. If he really disagreed with the war as much as he later said he did, he should've resigned in protest over it rather than act as a shill for it.
-Arlos
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:24 pm
by Shneider
What? Only Clinton can have a personal scandal and get away with it?
And you would really gainsay a four-star general? A bit pretentious are we?
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:25 pm
by Tikker
I know nothing at all about Obama(which to me means he hasn't done anything significant)
Colin Powell comes across like he has a brain, so at least you'd know he's an upgrade on dubya
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:26 pm
by Narrock
arlos wrote:Oh yes, Clarence Thomas, the guy who sexually harassed his underling? Yeah, lets hold him up on a pedestal, sure. I do have SOME respect for Colin Powell, but he lost any chance of ever getting my vote with his pre-war work, including spouting stuff to the UN he had to know was incorrect. If he really disagreed with the war as much as he later said he did, he should've resigned in protest over it rather than act as a shill for it.
-Arlos
That's total bullshit Arlos. Anita Hill was proved to be a liar in that case. The scumbag attorneys in the ACLU put her up to it. Clarence Thomas was innocent.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:28 pm
by Tikker
can we all at least agree that all politicians are slimy?
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:31 pm
by Narrock
Barrack Obama doesn't have a chance. Why? Because:
1. He's a bullshit artist, and Americans can see right through it.
2. He was raised a Muslim. That alone is enough for me.
3. His two years in the political arena don't give him enough experience for prez.
4. His stance on domestic social issues and foreign policy are wrong. He's just another lefty wacko trying to pussify America.
next...
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:32 pm
by Narrock
Tikker wrote:can we all at least agree that all politicians are slimy?
Pretty much, but some (like the conservatives) are
much less slimy than their leftist counterparts.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:28 pm
by Xaiveir
Just wanted you to elaborate Mindia on saying you wouldnt vote for Obama because he was a muslim. Not trying to start shit, but why should that have an inpact on if he can run the country or not?
Take everything else that you dont like about him, and just say why someones religion is grounds enough for him to not be president. If he was a jew, would that be better? Im just curious. I am certainly not a fan of his, but that comment you made interests me.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:34 pm
by Narrock
Xaiveir wrote:Just wanted you to elaborate Mindia on saying you wouldnt vote for Obama because he was a muslim. Not trying to start shit, but why should that have an inpact on if he can run the country or not?
Take everything else that you dont like about him, and just say why someones religion is grounds enough for him to not be president. If he was a jew, would that be better? Im just curious. I am certainly not a fan of his, but that comment you made interests me.
I don't trust Muslims. Empowering one in the White House makes me shudder at the mere thought.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:37 pm
by Xaiveir
I certainly understand. However on the flip side (i dont necessarily agree but for the sake of conversation) would a muslim leader possibly help with a never ending war in the middle east?
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:39 pm
by Narrock
Maybe, but you never know if they have a hidden agenda. It's a risk I'd not be willing to take. Not with a national defense/decision position anyway.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:40 pm
by Harrison
The Middle Eastern Muslims would see him as a traitor to their people.
God Himself could tell them he's their fucking salvation, and they would fight over it. It's what those useless fucks do. Fight...
Africans are the same way. They're fucked 10 different ways of crazy as well.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:43 pm
by Lyion
I like Obama, although I do think he's going to be put through the Clinton meat grinder.
If he were in the GOP, I'd consider him.
Haters, the guy was raised in a WHITE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICAN household. He has a JD Magna Cum Laude from Harvard. His black father has a degree from Harvard, as well, and is hardly an urban groidling a la Zanchiefs Peeps.
I wouldn't vote for him, because he's a Democrat. Feel free to fill in the right wing propaganda counter to Arlos and Zanchief's anti americanism rhetoric.
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:36 pm
by Phlegm
Clinton officially announced her presidential bid today.
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:48 pm
by Narrock
Phlegm wrote:Clinton officially announced her presidential bid today.
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:25 pm
by araby
Narrock wrote:Phlegm wrote:Clinton officially announced her presidential bid today.
who's your preference again mindia?
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:35 pm
by Martrae
Zanchief wrote:Wow that's pretty vile.
Shillary is a pretty vile woman. There is nothing too low for her to stoop to in her quest for power.