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Making a Website.....

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:57 am
by ybik gnome
Ok....So my rag-tag bunch of guildies has went from about 8 core people now to about 25 over the course of TBC.

Now I figure its times to move into the big boy field and get a real vent, and a real site. Problem is Ive never made a site and havent the slightest clue.

Aside from maybe registering with godaddy? I mean what happens there? Can I host my own site on my own computer if I leave it on 24/7? How hard is PHP to learn? Someone walk me through it like a small school child.

I already have our DKP site(thanks http://www.gsdkp.com!)

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:29 am
by Burgy99
I'm dealing with the same problem now Ybik. We've had vent, and out of my 20 hard core members 15 of them are willing to put up the cash for a website, but no one can actually put the thing together. Argh, leadership woes. It pisses me off because all the trash guilds with 100+ noobs can have a website, but I don't have one =p

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:22 am
by ybik gnome
Yea I was about to just get an EZboard forum, but some people would perfer to have a nice pretty website.... Any help on Php I know we got some guru's here!

Im so lost, im not even sure if i could just host the site on my own comp, register with godaddy and just point the http://www.guildname.com to my own ip? sounds logical to me..

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:56 am
by Darcler
If people want a pretty website, why dont they make it themselves? You were going to go with what you know, ezboard, and people are going to be picky and demand a website? With your obvious lack of knowledge with this stuff, pass the torch to someone else. If noone else can do it, ezboard it.

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:09 pm
by Trielelvan
Uh, what Darc said. If you don't know what you're doing, get someone that does to handle it.

If you've never made a site before, then I am assuming you know little to no HTML, to say the least, let alone how to set up a server, database, install scripts, or even how to upload to a host.
You can learn how - we all start somewhere. If you enjoy it, do it and learn.
However, you can royally fuck up the whole damned thing pretty easy, and, since I assume you don't wanna do that and have your guild lynch you, find out who DOES know something about site creation for a gaming guild, and have them set it up.

Honestly, since you don't even know where to start, this is gonna be way complicated for you, and you will likely get lost, frustrated, and just go to EZBoards anyway. My suggestion is this: Guildportal or Guildhelper

You pay them, they have all the tools necessary to get things going nice and easy, and one or the other, I believe, even sets it all up nice and pretty for you.

I create custom graphics, website layouts, and etc at the rate of $75/hr for the initial setup ($150 due up front), and $25 a month if you want me to maintain it. You pay for all purchasing and hosting costs.

Considering I do this on the cheap end, comparitively, you'd be getting a deal using them.

EZBoards prolly lookin' pretty good now, eh?

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:10 pm
by Jay
I'm shocked EZBoard is still in business.

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:13 pm
by Trielelvan
Yup. They suck sweaty hairy donkey balls.

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:56 pm
by Tikker
Trielelvan wrote:Yup. They suck sweaty hairy donkey balls.


and yet, they're a HUGE factor in what made EQ community so awesome, jeje

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:04 pm
by Trielelvan
It's like rain on your wedding day!

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:12 pm
by Tikker
no, not really

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:12 am
by Yamori
Unless you have someone that already knows how to put one together, it's not really worth it unless you're one of the top-end raid guilds on your server, imo. Just make a geocities page or whatever.

You'd need to:

-Register a domain name (ie http://www.guild.com) at some place.
-Buy webspace from some place.
-Assign webspace IPs to said domain name (forgot who does this... the domain seller or space seller)
-Learn HTML
-Make a site that doesn't look crappy
-Learn FTP, get it to work, and upload everything.

Kinda hard!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:37 am
by ybik gnome
Yamori wrote:Unless you have someone that already knows how to put one together, it's not really worth it unless you're one of the top-end raid guilds on your server, imo. Just make a geocities page or whatever.

You'd need to:

-Register a domain name (ie http://www.guild.com) at some place.
-Buy webspace from some place.
-Assign webspace IPs to said domain name <----this part is where im questioning.....
-Learn HTML
-Make a site that doesn't look crappy
-Learn FTP, get it to work, and upload everything.

Kinda hard!
[b]

Ive done Geocities/angelfire back in the day, on the old AOL and WebTV shiznit. About all there was to do on it, so although Im rusty on it. I imagine I could put one together. Mainly want a splash front page, with links to forums/DKP site.

Sounds like some simple code so far, now Ive never done forums, but I know alot of people saying shit about the PHP now...sooo, but with the grind to 70, dont have enough time to learn it at the moment. I should be done by this Friday, so Ill have more time to pick it up.

Once I had a domain name, where do you register what IP address you want that domain name to hit to? Would that be like godaddy?

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:22 am
by Trielelvan
Yamori wrote:-Assign webspace IPs to said domain name <---- Domain Name seller is where you assign the DNS info

Yes, that'd be like GoDaddy. Once you purchase the domain name, you will have access to a manager. In there, you assign DNS names given to you by your webhost.

Forums are not really that hard - you don't have to actually know how to write PHP or PERL or any other language, just how to manipulate the script.
There are several free ones, and they have step by step instructions on how to get it installed.
Your only issue is that most of the free sites do NOT give you the ability to execute scripts, and you have to have that in order to make the scripts work.

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:53 am
by Martrae
You could go for a free board like http://www.informe.com

Not sure how good they are or what restrictions they have, though.

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:44 am
by Gypsiyee
We used e107 - Aubry implemented most of it based on a layout I had made previously, but it's a good system to use and has pretty well mapped out instruction if you have the time and patience to sift through it. http://www.ctwow.net is the site if you want an example.