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Bush vs Gore
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:13 pm
by Menlaan
I was talking with a friend of mine who is a Republican, and the topic of the Bush vs Gore Presidential election came up. I mentioned that Gore won the popular vote, and she strongly disagreed saying that maybe the liberal biased CNN reported that, but that it wasn't true. I notice that wikipedia does say that Gore won a plurality over Bush. But I didn't realize that the popular vote was controversial.
So do you agree that Gore won the popular election?
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:42 pm
by Narrock
No. Fuck gore.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:46 pm
by Spazz
Your a few years late on this sir. GOre did win the numbers but bush won the electorates. Thank god bush won Cuz it woulda been a nightmare if gore had right COCK ?
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:11 pm
by Menlaan
Narrock wrote:No. Fuck gore.
Interesting. I did a search on Fox News, but couldn't find anything about this. Is there a Conservative site somewhere that says that Bush won the popular vote as well as the electoral college?
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:11 pm
by Lyion
Gore had more overall votes than Bush, yes, but due to the fact we are 'United States' and each state has electoral votes, then it matters who wins what states. Both had around 48% of the votes.
Gore did not get a majority. Neither did Bush. There were a lot of irregularities in that election, so if the real numbers were out, including the wrongly tossed military vote which is always overwhelmingly GOP, then its possible Bush would have had more overall votes than Gore. If Gore had won Ohio or Florida, that wouldn't have mattered either.
In election terms, 2000 was a statistical dead heat. The only thing that matters is which candidate gets 270 Electoral votes.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:15 pm
by Menlaan
Oh, I agree that Bush won the electoral college, and therefore won the Presidency. But I was shocked at the insinuation that Bush had ALSO won the popular vote. I had thought it was widely accepted that Gore won a plurality of the popular vote.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:18 pm
by Lueyen
I wouldn't even bother searching for a conservative site Menlaan, just point your friend here:
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:54 pm
by Evermore
Narrock wrote:Yes. Fuck bush.
Fixed
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:35 pm
by araby
I just learned last night that Bush is from Massachusetts...is that right? so, what is with the country boy act? Ivy League school. isn't it possible that he is an evil genius?
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:19 pm
by Phlegm
araby wrote:I just learned last night that Bush is from Massachusetts...is that right? so, what is with the country boy act? Ivy League school. isn't it possible that he is an evil genius?
Bush was born in Connecticut. His family moved to Texas when he was a little kid. He did went to some prep school in Massachusetts. He then attended Yale. He also got an MBA from Harvard Business School.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:07 am
by Harrison
Proof positive this state sucks.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:25 am
by Menlaan
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:29 am
by Zanchief
lyion wrote:There were a lot of irregularities in that election, so if the real numbers were out, including the wrongly tossed military vote which is always overwhelmingly GOP, then its possible Bush would have had more overall votes than Gore. If Gore had won Ohio or Florida, that wouldn't have mattered either.
It's no surprise this is the view you would have on the subject considering the vast majority of electoral corruption came from your cronies.
Electoral fraud must not be a very important issue to conservatives though, what with you guys being better at lying about it.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:26 am
by Lyion
For the record, I'd say both sides are fairly close in trying to cheat the system as much as possible. They are both political entities. I think it probably equals out.
I've said my views on Electoral Fraud, and I think it's a travesty third world countries have better elections than we do. However, any time safeguards or ID is attempted to be put into place, the media and ACLU seems to think it's an evil plot to suppress people. I can see how it'd be tougher for dead people to vote without valid IDs, though.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:36 am
by The Kizzy
They both suck so it doesnt really matter.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:37 am
by Evermore
lyion wrote:For the record, I'd say both sides are fairly close in trying to cheat the system as much as possible. They are both political entities. I think it probably equals out.
I've said my views on Electoral Fraud, and I think it's a travesty third world countries have better elections than we do. However, any time safeguards or ID is attempted to be put into place, the media and ACLU seems to think it's an evil plot to suppress people. I can see how it'd be tougher for dead people to vote without valid IDs, though.
time to eliminate the electoral college
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:53 am
by Lyion
I disagree. The electoral college means states votes and individuals votes matter.
We'd have a better effect if we prosecuted mass media conglomerates for wrongly declaring political races hours before polls closed, which has more of an effect than the electoral college.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:07 am
by Evermore
lyion wrote:I disagree. The electoral college means states votes and individuals votes matter.
We'd have a better effect if we prosecuted mass media conglomerates for wrongly declaring political races hours before polls closed, which has more of an effect than the electoral college.
apparently not if its possible for the state's electoral votes to go against the vote of the people in said state.
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:00 am
by dammuzis
the electoral college was set up by our fouders because most people are too stupid to vote... actually it was so smaller populactions could have a voice not just new york and other major metropoli
imho giving everyone the right to vote just because they had a birthday is just asking for trouble