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Guns
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:45 am
by ClakarEQ
I know I've got a bit of an extreme point of view regarding HAND guns, but I just browsed this article this morning and this is a bit much is it not?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18494626/
The NRA doesn't even want to restrict gun purchases to suspected terrorists?
I'm a bit on the fence only because "suspected terrorists" isn't "known terrorists" so I could see some civil rights issues but I'd hope to think even the "gun fans" think the article is too far.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:51 am
by Martrae
Well, I can see their point. What's to prevent them from putting everyone on the suspected terrorist list and banning the sale of guns altogether? It's one of those slippery slope deals.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:15 am
by Eziekial
"In a letter supporting the measure, Acting Assistant Attorney General Richard Hertling said the bill would not automatically prevent a gun sale to a suspected terrorist. In some cases, federal agents may want to let a sale go forward to avoid compromising an ongoing investigation."
That alone is reason enough not to support this stupid law.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:20 am
by Arlos
Question: Are the NRA fighting the toughened rules about selling guns to mental patients?
-Arlos
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:26 am
by Eziekial
I don't know, but I would guess yes as it falls under this same premise.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:01 am
by Snero
it's pretty obvious that I am 100% opposed to the sale of any handguns, outside of law enforcement and the military. i do have a problem with this though, the presumption of innocence is pretty much the basis of the current judicial system. This would be limiting the freedoms listed in the constitution due to a suspicion of guilt.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:15 am
by Gargamellow
How does Canada deal with guns?
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:40 am
by araby
in this state (probably others also) kids that get into trouble that do PTI (public service) have their records wiped clean and are able to purchase handguns.
right now I have two friends that sell herb and both own handguns. One was arrested for possession (not simple-he had enough for selling) and since he took PTI he has no record.
this is a way to slip by...if you ask me. Not that my friend is going to shoot someone-because I know he won't. Yet-there are so many kids out there that I *don't* know that legally own a gun, who've been in trouble before, but their record is clean.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:47 am
by Snero
The registration of all handguns has been required by federal law since 1934, and since 1968 permits to carry them have been restricted to a few specific circumstances, for example, use in target practice or competition, protection in extreme cases where police protection isn't adequate, and in certain jobs, such as transporting large amounts of cash or other valuables. Fully automatic weapons have been banned since 1977. The new law extends the registration requirement to unrestricted long guns such as shotguns and rifles and adds short-barrelled handguns and those discharging 25- or 32-calibre cartridges to the list of prohibited weapons.
http://www.canadianembassy.org/governme ... rol-en.asp