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Truly astounding Astronomical news
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:09 pm
by Arlos
The Solar system is *NOT* part of the Milky Way Galaxy, not originally at least.
Yes, that's right. We're part of a dwarf galaxy that originally orbited the Milky Way but has been so distorted by the gravity of the Milky Way that it looks like a giant letter C with the Solar system right at the point where that C intersects the disk of the Milky Way.
This finally explains why when we look at the Milky Way, it's angled across the sky. If we'd developed in the Milky Way, we should be in the same plane as the band of stars we see as the milky way, not angled to it.
For full information, go here:
http://viewzone.com/milkyway.html
Make SURE to look at the quicktime animation link.
I know I'm floored.
-Arlos
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:52 pm
by The Kizzy
Not trying to be a bitch here, but how does this effect our every day lives?
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:06 pm
by Arlos
How does Shakespeare? How does Michelangelo? How does Da Vinci? How does Stephen fucking Hawking influence your daily life? If that's all you care about, fine, ignore this, and you can go back to watching Oprah or daytime sitcom reruns whatever the fuck it is you do. Those of us with a soul, or interests about the great wild world and universe around us will be once more awed at the beauty and complexity of the universe.
But wait, you're missing some precious rugrat on a Very Special Episode of some fucked up show trying to flush a cat down the toilet set to an uprorious laugh track on channel 3 right now! That's WAY more important! Go to it!
-Arlos
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:14 pm
by 10sun
I've got better things to do than worry about where we came from and where we will go.
-Adam
ps. this is blasphemy. The Universe is nowhere near that old according to The Bible.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:18 pm
by The Kizzy
Arlos wrote:How does Shakespeare? How does Michelangelo? How does Da Vinci? How does Stephen fucking Hawking influence your daily life? If that's all you care about, fine, ignore this, and you can go back to watching Oprah or daytime sitcom reruns whatever the fuck it is you do. Those of us with a soul, or interests about the great wild world and universe around us will be once more awed at the beauty and complexity of the universe.
But wait, you're missing some precious rugrat on a Very Special Episode of some fucked up show trying to flush a cat down the toilet set to an uprorious laugh track on channel 3 right now! That's WAY more important! Go to it!
-Arlos
SOrry, I worry too much about the things that affect me, like working to pay the bills and put food in my childs belly. Wether we are or are not part of the Milky Way is not something I care about. You don't have to get so defensive over your precious stars. Spaceboy.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:29 pm
by Tikker
The Kizzy wrote:SOrry, I worry too much about the things that affect me, like working to pay the bills and put food in my childs belly. Wether we are or are not part of the Milky Way is not something I care about. You don't have to get so defensive over your precious stars. Spaceboy.
he was just being nice and not saying that you wouldn't understand it even if he could get it on your speak and spell
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:32 pm
by The Kizzy
Im not as dumb as you look, or something like that.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:36 pm
by Tikker
The Kizzy wrote:Im not as dumb as you look, or something like that.
nope, you're way way over the line
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:40 am
by KaiineTN
I think this is pretty cool, thanks for the link Arlos.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:26 am
by Jennay
Same- very interesting!
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:40 am
by Lyion
While that page was interesting, that doesn't exactly strike me as overtly reputable site. It's like a psuedo serious national enquirer wannabee site.
Check out the front page to see what I'm talking about..
Re: Truly astounding Astronomical news
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:24 am
by kinghooter00
Arlos wrote:The Solar system is *NOT* part of the Milky Way Galaxy, not originally at least.
Yes, that's right. We're part of a dwarf galaxy that originally orbited the Milky Way but has been so distorted by the gravity of the Milky Way that it looks like a giant letter C with the Solar system right at the point where that C intersects the disk of the Milky Way.
This finally explains why when we look at the Milky Way, it's angled across the sky. If we'd developed in the Milky Way, we should be in the same plane as the band of stars we see as the milky way, not angled to it.
For full information, go here:
http://viewzone.com/milkyway.htmlMake SURE to look at the quicktime animation link.
I know I'm floored.
-Arlos
thank god, now i can finally sleep at night.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:25 am
by Snero
The Kizzy wrote:Not trying to be a bitch here, but how does this effect our every day lives?
actually they hypothesize that the realigning of the two galaxies could be a cause of global warming, that the sun is burning hotter and all planets are getting warmer as a result.
There are some other cool results of this too:
- A series of Martian atmosphere transformations increasing its biosphere quality.
- A first stage atmosphere generation on the Moon
read the article, theres some cool stuff there, assuming the source is reliable
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:29 am
by Arlos
Well, most of that page is taken word for word from
http://astsun.astro.virginia.edu/~mfs4n/sgr/ with the rest coming from the abc.au and other astro blog link listed at the bottom. So, I'd say it's fairly well sourced, or really is just a copy of what otehrs have written, just coallated. Dunno about the rest of the site, but I think this story is pretty solid overall.
-Arlos
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:16 am
by Gaazy
Pretty wild stuff!
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:44 pm
by Dylan
10sun wrote:ps. this is blasphemy. The Universe is nowhere near that old according to The Bible.
Word.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:10 pm
by Jay
Can't speak for the rest of the boardbut I really enjoy Arlos' astrology posts. Not that it affects my life in any immediate way but I just like the topic and it usually makes for a good read.
Kizzy, your post following his main one is pretty ignorant. You're not usually like that so I imagine you're probably lashing out due to some kind of current shortcoming in your life.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:27 pm
by Naethyn
i like stars
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:41 pm
by Tossica
"My god.... it's full of stars..."
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:52 pm
by Lyion
Arlos wrote:Well, most of that page is taken word for word from http://astsun.astro.virginia.edu/~mfs4n/sgr/ with the rest coming from the abc.au and other astro blog link listed at the bottom. So, I'd say it's fairly well sourced, or really is just a copy of what otehrs have written, just coallated. Dunno about the rest of the site, but I think this story is pretty solid overall.-Arlos
That page is a submitted hypothesis from 2003 to an Astrophysical Magazine. Their observations based on the proximity of the Sgr system are different from what is represented on the website you linked to.
The other sourcing seems a tad off from what is presented, and given the front page of that website, I don't find it very credible
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:21 pm
by Martrae
But in other news, Jesus apparently visited Tibet....
Seriously though, if it's true, that's really cool.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:43 pm
by Jay
Tossica wrote:"My god.... it's full of stars..."
Robbs Celebs?
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:11 pm
by Gaazy
Ya I agree with Jay, its still interesting stuff, even though im not the brightest star in the sky (hehe, see what i did there), and dont understand half of the shit that article said.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:37 pm
by The Kizzy
Jay wrote:Can't speak for the rest of the boardbut I really enjoy Arlos' astrology posts. Not that it affects my life in any immediate way but I just like the topic and it usually makes for a good read.
Kizzy, your post following his main one is pretty ignorant. You're not usually like that so I imagine you're probably lashing out due to some kind of current shortcoming in your life.
Actually, it was a serious question. Is it pretty astounding that for as long as I remember we have always been told that we are part of the Milky Way Galaxy, and now we are not? Sure, it is very interesting. I was asking a valid question. How does this change effect us directly if at all. I asked because I figured Arlos would know. He took it the wrong way, now I just wanna have some fun with it. Arlos wants my hot body.
And to answer the last part, my life couldn't be going better. I have a wonderful man that is in love with me and I am in love with him, and the chemo has been working. They are talking full remission. So I am great right now. Thanks so much.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:43 pm
by Jay
The Kizzy wrote:Jay wrote:Can't speak for the rest of the boardbut I really enjoy Arlos' astrology posts. Not that it affects my life in any immediate way but I just like the topic and it usually makes for a good read.
Kizzy, your post following his main one is pretty ignorant. You're not usually like that so I imagine you're probably lashing out due to some kind of current shortcoming in your life.
Actually, it was a serious question. Is it pretty astounding that for as long as I remember we have always been told that we are part of the Milky Way Galaxy, and now we are not? Sure, it is very interesting. I was asking a valid question. How does this change effect us directly if at all. I asked because I figured Arlos would know. He took it the wrong way, now I just wanna have some fun with it. Arlos wants my hot body.
And to answer the last part, my life couldn't be going better. I have a wonderful man that is in love with me and I am in love with him, and the chemo has been working. They are talking full remission. So I am great right now. Thanks so much.
The Kizzy wrote:SOrry, I worry too much about the things that affect me, like working to pay the bills and put food in my childs belly. Wether we are or are not part of the Milky Way is not something I care about. You don't have to get so defensive over your precious stars. Spaceboy.
So you sure you didn't mean that snidely at all? Also, "not to be a bitch" generally means that everything you are gonna say afterwards is bitchy so were you really trying to be a bitch and trying to twist it now or do you actually want to know how this affects us all?
And actually, how does this affect us? Does it or is it just interesting knowledge? Will there be a slew of new research now as a result of this?