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shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:00 pm
by leah
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:50 pm
by Kramer
yikes.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:46 pm
by brinstar
ya i was out doing home visits and listening to the live updates between stops
i got back to the office and shut the car off and kept listening
they came in with a new update, they had just identified the killer as an 18 year old boy from bellevue (near omaha)
i don't know why but that was the last straw, i absolutely broke down right there in the car
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:52 pm
by leah
someone at work said that he had left a suicide note that said he was "going out in style." sickening.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:19 pm
by Narrock
Very sad.

Gun-control wackos are gonna have a field day with this one.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:52 pm
by Ouchyfish
brinstar wrote:i don't know why but that was the last straw, i absolutely broke down right there in the car
grow up
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:54 pm
by Ouchyfish
President Bush visited Omaha Wednesday but left an hour before the shooting, the AP reported
Oh great-time for another documentary by the fat fucking Moore.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:16 pm
by Arlos
Actually, I don't think there's going to be anything happening with regards to gun control until the Supreme Court finishes rendering its decision on the DC gun control ordinances. Should happen in 2008 some time.
That said, personally, I think assault weaponry (which is what he had) should be put into a similar classification as automatic weaponry, and require special permits to own. There's no reason why you need a 20+ round clip for hunting, and huge clips like that are exactly how whackos like this guy are able to do so much damage, cause they can keep shooting for extended periods without need for reloading. I would be violently against any attempt to restrict hunting-class weapons though. I realize that's hair-splitting, but that's life.
-Arlos
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:25 pm
by brinstar
Ouchyfish wrote:brinstar wrote:i don't know why but that was the last straw, i absolutely broke down right there in the car
grow up
i fail to see how feeling grief over senseless tragedy is in any way indicative of immaturity, please enlighten me?
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:30 am
by Ouchyfish
brinstar wrote:Ouchyfish wrote:brinstar wrote:i don't know why but that was the last straw, i absolutely broke down right there in the car
grow up
i fail to see how feeling grief over senseless tragedy is in any way indicative of immaturity, please enlighten me?
Grow up and realize that a few rich Americans getting wasted in a fucking mall is a drop in a global bucket. If you think that is a tragedy worthy of breaking down in your car like a little bitch, you should see the world and witness something more worthy of that response.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:42 am
by Arlos
Is the grief of the families of those slain any less real because they happen to live in America? If someone shot your mother in front of you, would your response be "Oh, no big deal, I'm in America and worse happens elsewhere"? Somehow, I think not.
Now, obviously that's a bit more extreme situation, but there's no shame in feeling impacted when a senseless tragedy impacts your immediate community, which is what happened for Brin because he LIVES there. Breaking down sobbing over the death of a neighbors canary, that would be excessive. Depression when people were murdered in cold blood at somewhere you've BEEN to, and you might possibly know people who were there... Hardly excessive.
Insensitivity is not manliness nor is it maturity, it's just insensitivity. You have no right whatsoever to judge his emotional reaction to events.
-Arlos
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:55 am
by Ouchyfish
Arlos wrote:You have no right whatsoever to judge his emotional reaction to events.
-Arlos
Last time I checked, I have every right.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:27 am
by Ouchyfish
Maruca-Kovac said Hawkins was fired from his job at a McDonald's this week and had recently broken up with a girlfriend.
He went completely McPostal.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:00 am
by Narrock
At first I thought Ouchyfish may have thought that Brinstar was being sarcastic. Wow Ouchyfish... wow. Someone piss in your wheaties this morning?
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:37 am
by brinstar
thanks arlos
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:00 am
by Harrison
Arlos wrote:Actually, I don't think there's going to be anything happening with regards to gun control until the Supreme Court finishes rendering its decision on the DC gun control ordinances. Should happen in 2008 some time.
That said, personally, I think assault weaponry (which is what he had) should be put into a similar classification as automatic weaponry, and require special permits to own. There's no reason why you need a 20+ round clip for hunting, and huge clips like that are exactly how whackos like this guy are able to do so much damage, cause they can keep shooting for extended periods without need for reloading. I would be violently against any attempt to restrict hunting-class weapons though. I realize that's hair-splitting, but that's life.
-Arlos
You've had very limited exposure to guns, haven't you?
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:03 am
by Harrison
retarded guy wrote:Grow up and realize that a few rich Americans getting wasted in a fucking mall is a drop in a global bucket. If you think that is a tragedy worthy of breaking down in your car like a little bitch, you should see the world and witness something more worthy of that response.
You are one truly dumb motherfucker.
I am seriously amazed at the stupidity involved in that response.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:31 am
by Evermore
Does anyone realize that you can do more damage then almost any gun just by using some commonly available chemicals?
Oh and anyone that wants to take any of my guns will have to pry them from my dead fingers.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:17 am
by Zanchief
Evermore wrote:Does anyone realize that you can do more damage then almost any gun just by using some commonly available chemicals?
Oh and anyone that wants to take any of my guns will have to pry them from my dead fingers.
I have no problem with that.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:20 am
by Zanchief
Harrison wrote:Arlos wrote:Actually, I don't think there's going to be anything happening with regards to gun control until the Supreme Court finishes rendering its decision on the DC gun control ordinances. Should happen in 2008 some time.
That said, personally, I think assault weaponry (which is what he had) should be put into a similar classification as automatic weaponry, and require special permits to own. There's no reason why you need a 20+ round clip for hunting, and huge clips like that are exactly how whackos like this guy are able to do so much damage, cause they can keep shooting for extended periods without need for reloading. I would be violently against any attempt to restrict hunting-class weapons though. I realize that's hair-splitting, but that's life.
-Arlos
You've had very limited exposure to guns, haven't you?
How is he wrong? Your countries obsession with firearms is mind-boggling.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:22 am
by Evermore
which statement do you not have a problem with?
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:24 am
by Evermore
Zanchief wrote:Harrison wrote:Arlos wrote:Actually, I don't think there's going to be anything happening with regards to gun control until the Supreme Court finishes rendering its decision on the DC gun control ordinances. Should happen in 2008 some time.
That said, personally, I think assault weaponry (which is what he had) should be put into a similar classification as automatic weaponry, and require special permits to own. There's no reason why you need a 20+ round clip for hunting, and huge clips like that are exactly how whackos like this guy are able to do so much damage, cause they can keep shooting for extended periods without need for reloading. I would be violently against any attempt to restrict hunting-class weapons though. I realize that's hair-splitting, but that's life.
-Arlos
You've had very limited exposure to guns, haven't you?
How is he wrong? Your countries obsession with firearms is mind-boggling.
you are never going to win this arguement.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:27 am
by Lyion
Heaven forbid someone have emotions when a mall near them is shot up.
It's easier for it to be nameless and faceless when it's not nearby.
That answer is ridiculous, Ever. Something tells me if this kid had to put together chemicals and realize what he was doing, he probably wouldn't have done it, unlike his picking up a gun and heading out the door for target practice. Likewise, when was the last chemical drive by, chemical carjacking, or chemical mall death?
Our fascination with guns and their cheap and quick availability is really sad in my mind. I guaranfuckintee I've had more exposure to guns than anyone here, also.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:37 am
by Evermore
What i was referring to was the ease of creating an explosive from household chemicals. hell a trip to the speed shop and another to the plant store and you can make a very high powered explosive.
Re: shooting in omaha mall
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:59 am
by Gaazy
haha Ouchy must have tore his sac this mornin or somethin