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Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:07 am
by KaiineTN
Well, seems like today is the "Tea Party" moneybomb for Ron Paul. It will be interesting to see how much money gets raised, and if he'll get as much/more media attention as he did last time. It will probably beat all the political fundraising records. I think I'll donate a few bucks later in the day.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/ to see the real-time counter. The day started at $11,551,156.57

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Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:16 am
by KaiineTN
In a 24-hour period on December 16, the campaign raised $6.026 million dollars, surpassing the one-day record of $5.7 million held by John Kerry.

During the day, over 58,000 people contributed to Dr. Paul’s campaign, including 24,940 first-time donors. Over 118,000 Americans have donated to the campaign in the fourth quarter.

The $6 million one-day total means the campaign has raised over $18 million this quarter, far exceeding its goal of $12 million.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:19 am
by araby
NOthing on the front page of anything.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:32 am
by KaiineTN
Yeah, that's because he got a big jump in poll numbers from the coverage of the last money bomb, and the people in charge of the media don't want that to happen again. I wonder if the newspaper and Lieberman endorsements were purposely put out on Sunday in order to have something to drown out the largest political fundraising day in history? I wouldn't put it past them.

You'd think 6+ million dollars and things like this happening all over the world (yes, world, not just our country) would be worthy of a bit more news time.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:14 pm
by Harrison
What a monumental waste of money that could be better served elsewhere than promoting a politician like an advertisement.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:38 pm
by Evermore
normally i would agree but Ron Paul should be supported

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:08 pm
by Harrison
I just see better things to do with millions of dollars than donate them to politicians, ANY politicians.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:06 pm
by Martrae

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:34 pm
by KaiineTN
Andrew Sullivan endorsed Ron Paul: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/t ... or-th.html

I wonder if any other recognizable names will come out an endorse him before the primaries start?

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:08 pm
by Gypsiyee
You know it's strange.. from every angle with people I talk to, Ron Paul has no chance.. but in Jacksonville, so far he is the *only* one who I've seen with any support via signs, bumper stickers, etc, democrat or republican. Well I take that back, I think I've seen one Romney sticker, but just the one and anything else has been Paul.

I think if people who actually *do* want him to have a chance get out there and vote instead of just thinking about it he has a very real chance, but I think it's going to be one of those that's a matter of people not just letting it happen because it'll be tight.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:13 pm
by araby
I will never vote for someone because I think they have a chance. I will vote for them because I believe they should be my next President.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:57 pm
by araby
Thanks for that link Martrae. These Ron Paul folks I work with are on the ball with the stories...I sent that one out cause I hadn't seen it posted yet!

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:15 pm
by Evermore
Harrison wrote:I just see better things to do with millions of dollars than donate them to politicians, ANY politicians.


again i agree but this country is so in need of a change i am making an exception.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:18 pm
by araby
You know, it's a real important issue people seem to overlook...

If you live in South Carolina, and your heart is with a Democratic Candidate...essentially you are "wasting" your vote.

I refuse to pay attention to the media, who they place as frontrunners or what they have to say after the debates. It's pointless. I knew from the beginning Ron Paul was my man and I've never felt so strongly about anyone else, and I've voted in every election since I was 18.

Vote for who you believe in!!

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:25 pm
by Evermore
araby wrote:You know, it's a real important issue people seem to overlook...

If you live in South Carolina, and your heart is with a Democratic Candidate...essentially you are "wasting" your vote.

I refuse to pay attention to the media, who they place as frontrunners or what they have to say after the debates. It's pointless. I knew from the beginning Ron Paul was my man and I've never felt so strongly about anyone else, and I've voted in every election since I was 18.

Vote for who you believe in!!

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Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:30 pm
by Lyion
Harrison wrote:I just see better things to do with millions of dollars than donate them to politicians, ANY politicians.


You don't donate millions of dollars. You donate a few dollars to a person you believe will help create the government of the future you want. This is called a grass roots movement, and it's a way to enact change.

Unfortunately, many people feel as you, and don't understand how the political process works. Ron Paul has a pretty on point message, and a lot of supporters. It's a shame the only time you here his soundbites is due to his anti Iraq War message, or his exchanges with Mccain and Giulianin about the war that put him in a negative light. It's not completely surprising, though, as the mainstream media is selective, and certainly biased.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:20 pm
by araby
I've given what I can...only on three occasions. I had to give Sunday of course...

but the first time I picked up signs/bumper stickers/literature I dropped a $20 in the box...
and my friends can't give more than that either and they're running the campaign! ^_^

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:38 pm
by Tikker
Lyion wrote:
Harrison wrote:I just see better things to do with millions of dollars than donate them to politicians, ANY politicians.


You don't donate millions of dollars. You donate a few dollars to a person you believe will help create the government of the future you want. This is called a grass roots movement, and it's a way to enact change.

Unfortunately, many people feel as you, and don't understand how the political process works. .


I agree with Lyion here

yes, millions of dollars to a politician rather than directly to a cause maybe seems wrong, but if those millions to a politician end in billions or trillions being redirected in the right direction, then it was money well spent

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:17 am
by Arlos
Honestly, I'd rather we went the route of public campaign funding. It would get rid of a lot of the shadiness that goes on with big corporate donors, etc. Individuals donating 20 bucks here and there of course is no problem, but when you get to lobbyist blocs that DO donate millions in soft money, that's when you have a real problem of government of the dollar, by the dollar, and for the dollar, instead of for the people.

-Arlos

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:41 pm
by Yamori
Arlos wrote:Honestly, I'd rather we went the route of public campaign funding. It would get rid of a lot of the shadiness that goes on with big corporate donors, etc. Individuals donating 20 bucks here and there of course is no problem, but when you get to lobbyist blocs that DO donate millions in soft money, that's when you have a real problem of government of the dollar, by the dollar, and for the dollar, instead of for the people.

-Arlos


Who decides which candidates get money, and how the money is divided up, and where does that money come from? Id be pretty pissed to have some of my money going to promote Romney or Giuliani or Clinton when I consider them immensely dangerous people.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:35 pm
by Arlos
I'm pissed to have my tax money going to support the war in Iraq. Should I get to boycott paying taxes on the chance that that money might be used for the war or for illegal domestic wiretapping? Sorry, but since when has our potential personal outrage at the uses to which our tax dollars are put mattered so much as a piss upwind?

-Arlos

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:22 pm
by Tikker
Arlos wrote:I'm pissed to have my tax money going to support the war in Iraq. Should I get to boycott paying taxes on the chance that that money might be used for the war or for illegal domestic wiretapping? Sorry, but since when has our potential personal outrage at the uses to which our tax dollars are put mattered so much as a piss upwind?

-Arlos



that's kind of a dumb comparison arlos

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:53 am
by Eziekial
Refusing to pay taxes? Who would ever do such a thing? I mean that's like revolting against our very form of government!

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:54 am
by Harrison
It's rather difficult when they steal them right out of your paycheck like the fuckwads that they are.

Re: Ron Paul money bomb v2.0

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:07 pm
by araby
I have real issues with the money being taken out of my check. Essentially, I'm giving it to people who are less fortunate, many of which are *actually* able to work. If I could opt out of having taxes withheld I would...I don't think we should pay those kinds of taxes at all...

Charity is different.