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Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:18 am
by togusa
So I am currently living in a student oriented apartment complex that provides highspeed internet access. Each bedroom is equipped with an ethernet jack. I have been playing a lot of CoD4 over winter break and upon returning to school I have found that I regularly ping 200-500 while playing from my apartment. I tested on CS and CS:S and my pings are never over 100. I think that this is closed port issue with the network as I have tested 28960 (cod4 port) with several fast online port checkers and they all report that the connection was refused. Could there be anything else causing this lag?
I was going to call the tech guys later today and ask if they would be able to open the port for me but I have a sneaking suspicion that they won't. Any suggestions, I want to play

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Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:46 am
by Tossica
togusa wrote:So I am currently living in a student oriented apartment complex that provides highspeed internet access. Each bedroom is equipped with an ethernet jack. I have been playing a lot of CoD4 over winter break and upon returning to school I have found that I regularly ping 200-500 while playing from my apartment. I tested on CS and CS:S and my pings are never over 100. I think that this is closed port issue with the network as I have tested 28960 (cod4 port) with several fast online port checkers and they all report that the connection was refused. Could there be anything else causing this lag?
I was going to call the tech guys later today and ask if they would be able to open the port for me but I have a sneaking suspicion that they won't. Any suggestions, I want to play

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A closed port would not pass traffic at all. Running a tracert to the destination IP would give you an idea of where your latency is coming from.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:16 am
by togusa
Well, if that is the case why do I only encounter lag when playing CoD4 and no other games?
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:27 am
by togusa
Here is a tracert to my usual server... I don't know the intricacies of interpreting these but from what I can see there aren't any major issues.. I'm stumped.
Tracing route to 180.208-100-14.static.steadfast.net [208.100.14.180]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.3.0.1
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.1.0.2
3 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 65.14.170.21
4 24 ms 24 ms 27 ms 205.152.243.128
5 30 ms 23 ms 28 ms ixc01cha-pos-7-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.103]
6 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms 65.83.237.140
7 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms axr01aep-ge-5-1-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.238.37]
8 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms axr00mia-0-3-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.236.28]
9 56 ms 22 ms 22 ms 65.83.238.46
10 32 ms 31 ms 36 ms so-6-0-0.edge5.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.71.218.1]
11 47 ms 36 ms 32 ms vlan89.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.190]
12 36 ms 36 ms 38 ms ae-72-72.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.141]
13 49 ms 51 ms 55 ms ae-2.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.105]
14 54 ms 57 ms 53 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.38]
15 82 ms 73 ms 87 ms ae-3.ebr3.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.132.62]
16 80 ms 75 ms 72 ms ae-78.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.134.61]
17 84 ms 86 ms 78 ms ae-24-56.car4.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.168]
18 76 ms 73 ms 73 ms WBS-CONNECT.car4.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.79.208.1
54]
19 74 ms 77 ms 76 ms 180.208-100-14.static.steadfast.net [208.100.14.
180]
Trace complete.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:29 am
by Tossica
Sounds like a problem with the game engine itself.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:30 am
by 10sun
Thats a lot of Level3 hops... too many in fact. That'd be a DNS issue perhaps?
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:34 am
by togusa
What does that mean in stupid-people terms?
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:49 am
by 10sun
Try using: 65.24.7.3 and 65.24.7.6 as your DNS servers and see if that changes the # of hops on the tracert?
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:57 am
by togusa
I changed my DNS but nothing worked..
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\phil>tracert 208.100.13.180
Tracing route to 208.100.13.180 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.3.0.1
2 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 10.1.0.2
3 18 ms 3 ms 1 ms 65.14.170.21
4 21 ms 21 ms 218 ms 205.152.45.81
5 23 ms 26 ms 23 ms 65.83.239.103
6 10 ms 7 ms 7 ms 65.83.239.28
7 9 ms 7 ms 17 ms 65.83.236.73
8 21 ms 23 ms 25 ms 65.83.236.191
9 24 ms 25 ms 23 ms 65.83.238.50
10 36 ms 38 ms 37 ms 67.72.4.41
11 45 ms 46 ms 43 ms 4.68.19.62
12 43 ms 45 ms 36 ms 4.69.136.149
13 58 ms 52 ms 57 ms 4.69.132.105
14 59 ms 54 ms 54 ms 4.69.132.38
15 76 ms 77 ms 84 ms 4.69.132.62
16 80 ms 76 ms 73 ms 4.69.134.61
17 280 ms 222 ms 107 ms 4.68.101.104
18 73 ms 79 ms 75 ms 4.79.208.154
19 90 ms 88 ms 71 ms 216.86.149.61
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * *
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:01 am
by 10sun
suxcong.
Ping 208.100.14.180, not 208.100.13.180 ?
ps. I have a ping of like 30.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:06 am
by togusa
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\phil>tracert 208.100.14.180
Tracing route to 208.100.14.180 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.3.0.1
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.1.0.2
3 2 ms 3 ms 1 ms 65.14.170.21
4 28 ms 24 ms 36 ms 205.152.243.128
5 25 ms 31 ms 29 ms 65.83.239.103
6 21 ms 22 ms 17 ms 65.83.237.140
7 22 ms 10 ms 11 ms 65.83.238.37
8 28 ms 22 ms 42 ms 65.83.236.191
9 29 ms 22 ms 22 ms 65.83.238.46
10 42 ms 36 ms 36 ms 4.71.218.1
11 39 ms 45 ms 37 ms 4.68.19.190
12 54 ms 46 ms 35 ms 4.69.136.141
13 56 ms 58 ms 58 ms 4.69.132.105
14 51 ms 56 ms 49 ms 4.69.132.38
15 78 ms 73 ms 79 ms 4.69.132.62
16 82 ms 84 ms * 4.69.134.61
17 87 ms 72 ms 74 ms 4.68.101.168
18 82 ms 73 ms 86 ms 4.79.208.154
19 75 ms 74 ms 77 ms 208.100.14.180
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\phil>
I'm not really sure what I'm doing by changing my DNS... I do know that when I changed to what you recommended I cannot view websites or connect to cod4 servers. But this is the tracert with the DNS changed.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:17 am
by 10sun
Change your stuff back to the way it was.
I gave you the DNS servers for Time Warner in Columbus, Ohio.
-Adam
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:18 am
by Tossica
Just get your DNS from your DHCP server. You shouldn't need to mess with any of that. I think the problem is within the game code.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:18 am
by togusa
Well... I found a random server I ping fine to.. but that's what.. 1/10000 so I'm completely confused now. Could it be that my ISP just doesn't ping well to certain, random locations?
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:20 am
by togusa
What do you mean Tossica? Are you implying that my issue is unfixable?
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:26 am
by Tossica
Do a google on high pings Call of Duty 4.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:02 am
by Naethyn
Cod4 network play has major flaws.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:15 pm
by togusa
This is my first encounter with CoD4 having any network issues, and that includes playing steadily at two other locations.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:30 pm
by Arlos
10sun, that's not at all unusual for Level3, actually. I used to see that all the time back when I was working network issues.
-Arlos
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:44 pm
by 10sun
Arlos wrote:10sun, that's not at all unusual for Level3, actually. I used to see that all the time back when I was working network issues.
-Arlos
It is just me then where I see at most 6 level3.net connections when I do perform tracerts & there is a level3.net connection, however I don't have a habit of checking TraceRt when I don't have issues for the most part unless someone else is.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:51 pm
by togusa
Okay after looking around and connecting to various servers.. I ping 150 to servers located in Europe, primarily the UK.. this seems normal to me. However, the servers I ping 400+ to are all located in the US.. Is my ISP confused on where I am living or what? I can't figure out why I can ping normally to British servers and not American..

Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:08 am
by Gidan
I wouldn't be concerned with all the hops in the level 3 network. The server your connecting to happens to be hosted on the Level 3 network and they do not have a direct link from Dallas to Chicago so there going to be a few hops between the 2, through Denver in your case.
What hours are you playing, and what hours did you test your connection to Europe?
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:22 am
by togusa
The pings are pretty consistent at all hours, all tests were done in the middle of the day. I don't think that the time of day would change how I'm pinging to American servers only. It really makes no sense that I ping so high only to US servers..
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:04 am
by Harrison
togusa wrote:The pings are pretty consistent at all hours, all tests were done in the middle of the day. I don't think that the time of day would change how I'm pinging to American servers only. It really makes no sense that I ping so high only to US servers..
Of course it would, you're sharing a connection with possibly thousands of students.
Re: Apartment Network
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:18 am
by togusa
How would the time of day affect my ping to American servers only and not European?