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I just don't understand some people
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:57 am
by Tikker
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/s ... ml?ref=rssessentially, a native dude decides to walk across the reserve, in a -50 blizzard
dumb to start with
then you find out he's just in jeans and a t-shirt
then you find out he'd taken his kids with him, and they were just in t-shirts and diapers
and he left them behind...
the super crazy part of the whole thing is that this kinda stuff happens on reserves fairly commonly =\
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:20 am
by Evermore
and they cant seem to ban booze...
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:03 am
by Gypsiyee
god that's disgustingly stupid
what the hell is his justification for being that much of a dunce while sober?
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:13 am
by Sithos
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:16 am
by Zanchief
Tikker wrote:the super crazy part of the whole thing is that this kinda stuff happens on reserves fairly commonly =\
Well that part isn't really true.
Alcoholism is a huge problem among natives here.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:18 am
by Gypsiyee
well that's bloody brilliant
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:34 am
by Tikker
Zanchief wrote:Tikker wrote:the super crazy part of the whole thing is that this kinda stuff happens on reserves fairly commonly =\
Well that part isn't really true.
maybe not in ontario, but around here it's pretty common
it's not usually toddlers, more older teens, or young guys who wander out in the snow high/drunk and die. couple every single winter for as long as I can remember
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:22 am
by Zanchief
Drunk people dying in a blizzard isn't news. Two toddlers dying is.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:51 pm
by Harrison
Zanchief wrote:Tikker wrote:the super crazy part of the whole thing is that this kinda stuff happens on reserves fairly commonly =\
Well that part isn't really true.
Alcoholism is a huge problem among natives here.
Racist.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:27 pm
by Tossica
Harrison wrote:Racist.
Retard.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:22 pm
by brinstar
pff we had a couple of twentysomethings all spun out on meth wander into a blizzard on foot and die a year or two ago
they were white as wonder bread too
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:30 pm
by Harrison
Addicts die here everyday. Who cares?
They're worthless and aren't even worth the few cents of internet time it took to type this thread out.
We won't even talk about the money we waste "treating" them.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:33 pm
by Tossica
Harrison wrote:We won't even talk about the money we waste "treating" them.
Who the fuck is we? How many dollars have YOU spent treating addicts?
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:42 pm
by Harrison
We, as in taxpayers. I'm fairly sure I didn't get W2's back by accident. If you weren't such a burnt-out leftover you may have figured that one out yourself.
Let's hope the pathetic little offshoot spawn of yours fares better.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:52 pm
by Lyion
We had and currently have a big problem with Native Americans being alcoholics. It's a bit sad, especially since many of my relatives are Cheyenne.
Fortunately, many are doing better due to Casino's on their lands, and increased opportunities, finally.
It's still not a great setup.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:15 pm
by KaiineTN
My uncle is Native American, not sure which tribe and what not, but I know he had alcohol abuse problems earlier in life, and he finally quit drinking after my aunt nearly left him after he hit her when drunk. He talked with me about it once, about how everything changed for him when he drank, how he felt that it gave him power, and that was the addictive part of it. >_<
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:45 am
by Tossica
I'm 1/8th Cherokee. My great grandmother is pure blood Cherokee. Alcoholism is a serious concern for any native American. Genetics...
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:57 am
by brinstar
Harrison wrote:Cancer patients die here everyday. Who cares?
They're worthless and aren't even worth the few cents of internet time it took to type this thread out.
We won't even talk about the money we waste "treating" them.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:14 pm
by Jay
Harrison wrote:We, as in taxpayers. I'm fairly sure I didn't get W2's back by accident. If you weren't such a burnt-out leftover you may have figured that one out yourself.
Let's hope the pathetic little offshoot spawn of yours fares better.
I'm sure your contribution to taxes isn't much different than a 16 year old's who works at Burger King. Either way, America thanks you for the 50 bucks listed in your w2.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:56 pm
by KaiineTN
Just which tax that you're paying do you think is used to this end, anyways?
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:53 pm
by Harrison
brinstar wrote:Harrison wrote:Cancer patients die here everyday. Who cares?
They're worthless and aren't even worth the few cents of internet time it took to type this thread out.
We won't even talk about the money we waste "treating" them.
You can't compare an unfortunate situation to a decision by an addict piece of shit.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:30 pm
by araby
Harrison wrote:brinstar wrote:Harrison wrote:Cancer patients die here everyday. Who cares?
They're worthless and aren't even worth the few cents of internet time it took to type this thread out.
We won't even talk about the money we waste "treating" them.
You can't compare an unfortunate situation to a decision by an addict piece of shit.
you lack tact and understanding. brin's dad coulda just as easily been a piece of shit and it happens to be (thankfully) that he isn't. it's still a decision. your addict piece of shit is that to you because she's your ex. it's different when it's family. still addiction, still a decision, still unfortunate.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:57 pm
by Harrison
I lost tact and understanding when my uncle died of complications related to AIDS and left three children to fight for themselves. Their mother was still a heroin addict and couldn't care for them at all. She died not many years after. Between my immediate family and my grandmother we took them in. Two of them turned out fine and one is likely still a gangbanging nigger in Providence. His death would surely not harm anyone.
My hatred for addicts and the pain they bring by merely continuing to exist extends far beyond my ex-girlfriend/best friend for 12 years of my life.
My ex, my best friend, 3 other close friends, family, and the countless others I've lost to drugs only steeled my hatred for addicts.
I wouldn't shed a single tear if every single fucking one of them dropped dead tomorrow. The world would instantly improve by the "loss' of those worthless fucks. Stop wasting money on them. Issue them cyanide instead of methadone. You're fucking dumb enough to stick a needle into you? You deserve to die on the spot. Fuck you.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:02 pm
by Harrison
I apologize Brin. I didn't mean any disrespect to you and yours.
The fact your father overcame addiction and turned out great isn't something I hear often.
I have no room left in my life for faith in addicts, and I don't know if this will ever change.
To this day if I ever saw a number of people I haven't seen in 2+years I would punch them in the face for the pain they've caused. Fuck them and anyone who tries to defend their "unfortunate" position. They chose their path and they have to live with it.
Re: I just don't understand some people
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:04 pm
by araby
Harrison wrote:I lost tact and understanding when my uncle died of complications related to AIDS and left three children to fight for themselves. Their mother was still a heroin addict and couldn't care for them at all. She died not many years after. Between my immediate family and my grandmother we took them in. Two of them turned out fine and one is likely still a gangbanging nigger in Providence. His death would surely not harm anyone.
My hatred for addicts and the pain they bring by merely continuing to exist extends far beyond my ex-girlfriend/best friend for 12 years of my life.
My ex, my best friend, 3 other close friends, family, and the countless others I've lost to drugs only steeled my hatred for addicts.
I wouldn't shed a single tear if every single fucking one of them dropped dead tomorrow. The world would instantly improve by the "loss' of those worthless fucks. Stop wasting money on them. Issue them cyanide instead of methadone. You're fucking dumb enough to stick a needle into you? You deserve to die on the spot. Fuck you.
with your attitude, you are nothing to them, either. I will never give up on someone, especially if it's my family. I know when to say when, though. you're angry, you lack compassion and it's really effecting the person you are. at some point harrison, you gotta look around yourself and make a decision not to help some people. sometimes, you have to fire them and walk away, throw up your hands on helping them, because they don't help themselves. but sometimes, you don't bail. you have to know when it's appropriate and when it's not.
it *is* too bad it's in your immediate family, etc..but have you ever thought of moving? surrounding yourself with some better folks in a new town with a new way? I am not gonna tell you what to do, and I'm not a therapist but I'm pretty smart and I know people, and I know addicts. I helped bring one back and I knew when to say when. you gotta know what you're gonna do but you can't enable people and you can't wish them death if they don't want to help themselves. you can be out of their life, you can lose contact with them...but mentally you can't bail on em. you gotta say to yourself, because you cared about them, "I hope you're okay soon." and walk away.
if you're not supporting them even in your mind, if you've given up or wish death upon them, you're no good to them, just as they are no good to you.
by the way-the man whose life I saved...he never thanked me and I just realized that in typing this out. doesn't change anything...he's alive and sober now.