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Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:38 pm
by Arlos
Cavs trade away 3/5 of their starting rotation, get Ben Wallace & Wally Szerbiak. (or howeverinhell you spell that guy's last name)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3257159Comments from the actual NBA experts?
-Arlos
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:56 pm
by Jay
Wallace is done, so is hughes, gooden is emerging. I think Cavs got fucked out of this deal, Bulls and sonics did ok.
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:09 pm
by Bloodberri
Why didn't they trade sideshow bob instead?
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:37 pm
by Lyion
Jay wrote:Wallace is done, so is hughes, gooden is emerging. I think Cavs got fucked out of this deal, Bulls and sonics did ok.
I wouldn't go that far, but this trade doesn't make me feel happy.
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:16 am
by Zanchief
For a supposed blockbuster, it really doesn't amount to much. They traded Hughes crap contract for Wallace’s. It's mostly just a move to appease LeBron so he doesn't ask to get traded when they get bumped in the first round.
Wallace will help them though.
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:28 am
by Lyion
Zanchief wrote:
Wallace will help them though.
I'm not 100% sure the new players will be an upgrade. I wish the Cavs had gotten Gasol earlier.
The move doesn't make sense to me, outside of moving Hughes contract. However, absorbing Wallace's, someone who I think is past his prime and not as motivated as before doesn't give them the pieces they need.
I guess they are hoping Szczerbiak or Smith will mesh better with James, and just wanted to mix things up.
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:07 am
by Zanchief
They didn't give anything up though. They dumped Hughes who they can't give away with his contract, and they dumped Gooden who's not very good.
They might have been able to make a move for Gasol but not with that package. Wallace may be past his prime but he'll help them inside on defense, and they'll just stick Gibson and Wally outside to hit uncontested threes off LeBron's doubles.
It's a reaction move after they lost out on both Gasol and Kidd, but it won't hurt them I don't think. They'll miss Hughes on defense though.
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:42 pm
by Xaiveir
Zanchief wrote:They didn't give anything up though. They dumped Hughes who they can't give away with his contract, and they dumped Gooden who's not very good.
They might have been able to make a move for Gasol but not with that package. Wallace may be past his prime but he'll help them inside on defense, and they'll just stick Gibson and Wally outside to hit uncontested threes off LeBron's doubles.
It's a reaction move after they lost out on both Gasol and Kidd, but it won't hurt them I don't think. They'll miss Hughes on defense though.
The Sonics have made out like bandits this year. They have 2 more 08 first round picks (not including their almost assured lottery pick this year), and an additional one from Phoenix in 09. Its just too bad that the Sonics will be out of Seattle, and ill never get a chance to actually watch this team develop.
For the Cavs, i really like this trade. They actually have perimeter shooters now, that will not allow teams to sit and just play Lebron. They also get someone that his only value is rebounding. They get rid of Hughes huge contract that was essentially dead weight. Its not a huge name or impact (Shaq, Gasol, Kidd) but i think it will be more effective for Cleveland than those aforementioned trades (save Gasol).
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:05 pm
by Lyion
Zanchief wrote:It's a reaction move after they lost out on both Gasol and Kidd, but it won't hurt them I don't think. They'll miss Hughes on defense though.
I don't personally see them as a better team after this trade, unless Wallace reverts to pre Chicago form. That's a really big if.
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:42 pm
by Zanchief
Well Hughes didn't help them that much though. They need a SG that can stick open shots, Wally does that. Having a slasher on the wing along with LeBron was always redundant.
Wallace will help them with their interior defense too. With Ilgauskas(sp) and Wallace they'll be a tuff team to score on.
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:59 pm
by Lyion
Wally is more of a liability on D, though.
I dunno. It may be an upgrade, but it strikes me as not much of one.
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:06 pm
by Zanchief
Lyion wrote:Wally is more of a liability on D, though.
That he is.
Re: Yet another big NBA trade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:53 pm
by Jay
Lyion wrote:Zanchief wrote:It's a reaction move after they lost out on both Gasol and Kidd, but it won't hurt them I don't think. They'll miss Hughes on defense though.
I don't personally see them as a better team after this trade, unless Wallace reverts to pre Chicago form. That's a really big if.
People who leave Chicago have a tendency to just do way better ><. Look at Curry, Chandler, Brand etc etc. We are the new Golden State Warriors.