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The ACLU
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:44 pm
by Diekan
It's shit (see links below) like that, that make me glad organizations like the ACLU exist.
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol ... 193480.ecehttp://www.businessweek.com/magazine/co ... op+storiesI know the Microsoft article is older, but the Businessweek hype is just last week. So, I added them together to give you some perspective of how freaking out of control "big business" is getting in their never ending quest for more and more productivity and profits.
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:19 pm
by Tikker
err, the whole 2nd article sounds like google
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:23 pm
by brinstar
and yet you're voting REPUBLICAN??
jesus christ
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:42 pm
by Lueyen
Tikker wrote:err, the whole 2nd article sounds like google
brinstar wrote:and yet you're voting REPUBLICAN??
jesus christ
Interesting tidbit. Al Gore is currently a senior advisor to Google.
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:45 pm
by Tikker
he did invent the internet
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:21 pm
by Arlos
You know, he never actually said that, not at least in the usage everyone means it.
What he said is that he was responsible for the bills in congress that led to the creation of the internet.
Yeah, if he'd tried to claim he sat there helped develop packet streaming technology, it'd be laughable. But since all he claimed is that he helped provide funding for the creation of ARPANet, which ended up morphing into the internet, he's actually quite accurate. Without his work in getting the bills to create ARPANet passed, there might not be an internet, so yes, he did help create it.
-Arlos
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:40 pm
by Harrison
Arlos wrote:You know, he never actually said that, not at least in the usage everyone means it.
What he said is that he was responsible for the bills in congress that led to the creation of the internet.
Yeah, if he'd tried to claim he sat there helped develop packet streaming technology, it'd be laughable. But since all he claimed is that he helped provide funding for the creation of ARPANet, which ended up morphing into the internet, he's actually quite accurate. Without his work in getting the bills to create ARPANet passed, there might not be an internet, so yes, he did help create it.
-Arlos
I swear to fucking God if you tell us this again over the next few years you're going to be struck down by sarcasm AIDS.
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:36 pm
by brinstar
Lueyen wrote:Interesting tidbit. Al Gore is currently a senior advisor to Google.
interesting tidbit. my comment had exactly nothing to do with tikker's, nor al gore
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:54 pm
by Lueyen
brinstar wrote:Lueyen wrote:Interesting tidbit. Al Gore is currently a senior advisor to Google.
interesting tidbit. my comment had exactly nothing to do with tikker's, nor al gore
That may not have been your intent, but I connected the lines for you. I didn't explain those connections in detail as you have in the past chided me for long posts. I know you aren't an idiot so I didn't bother drawing those connections in detail, I know you figured out what I was pointing out, that this sort of methodology can not be ascribed to only Republicans.
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:55 pm
by brinstar
fair enough. what i meant was that for someone who rails so vehemently against Big Business to be voting republican is as tragic as it is comical. it's tragicomical!
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:07 pm
by Diekan
Oh crying out loud. How many times do I have to point out that I am not a far left conservative?
I donate a nice chunk of change to PETA every year.
I donate a nice chunk of change to the ASPCA every year.
I am vehemently opposed to fascist legislation like the Patriot Act and FISA.
I am highly untrusting of “big business.”
I am an environmentalist.
I think “natural” drugs (think weed / shrooms) should be LEGAL.
I think prostitution should also be LEGAL.
Etc etc etc.
As I’ve already explained… I have my reasons for voting McCain this time around. And, as many of you know – or at the very least SHOULD know. McCain a MUCH more liberal in his leanings than any of the previous presidential-wanna –bes that attempted to run this time around. I don’t want some idealistic, naïve, inexperienced president completely fucking up our ability to defend ourselves. Among other “things.”
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:40 pm
by leah
GAH those aspca commercials make me weep

Re: The ACLU
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:16 pm
by Martrae
PETA= People Eating Tasty Animals

Re: The ACLU
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:52 pm
by Harrison
Diekan wrote:Oh crying out loud. How many times do I have to point out that I am not a far left conservative?
I donate a nice chunk of change to PETA every year.
I donate a nice chunk of change to the ASPCA every year.
I am vehemently opposed to fascist legislation like the Patriot Act and FISA.
I am highly untrusting of “big business.”
I am an environmentalist.
I think “natural” drugs (think weed / shrooms) should be LEGAL.
I think prostitution should also be LEGAL.
AWESOME WAY TO WASTE MONEY
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:45 am
by Gypsiyee
Diekan wrote:I think prostitution should also be LEGAL.
somehow, this does not shock me in the least o.O
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:46 am
by Haylo
If prostitution was legalized it would be a better situation than it is now. For instance you could tax it, you could require all prostitutes to have an up to date health exam. Hell you could place all sorts of requirements and regulations on it.
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:49 am
by Arlos
I've never understood why prostitution was illegal. I mean, why is it illegal to charge for something that it's perfectly legal to give away for free?
-Arlos
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:04 pm
by Gypsiyee
Haylo wrote:If prostitution was legalized it would be a better situation than it is now. For instance you could tax it, you could require all prostitutes to have an up to date health exam. Hell you could place all sorts of requirements and regulations on it.
these are pretty interesting points. I never really viewed it in that light.
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:11 pm
by leah
lol gyps is obama dusting off his shoulders in your sig? funny!
and isn't that viewpoint of prostitution pretty much the same as that of legalizing marijiuana?
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:41 pm
by numatu
There's no argument one can make, besides trying to legislate morality, for prostitution to remain illegal. It's decidedly unconstitutional, and is simply an unenforceable law that wastes resources instead of collecting revenue.
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:50 pm
by Naethyn
I think McCain is going to win this election. It became immensely clear in 04' that America deserves what we have received.
How anyone can morally vote for someone who is for the Iraq war, for more wars, and for a draft is beyond me.
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:36 pm
by Evermore
Naethyn wrote:I think McCain is going to win this election. It became immensely clear in 04' that America deserves what we have received.
How anyone can morally vote for someone who is for the Iraq war, for more wars, and for a draft is beyond me.
So how can you vote for McCain then?
http://www.ontheissues.org/
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:42 pm
by ClakarEQ
Naethyn wrote:I think McCain is going to win this election. It became immensely clear in 04' that America deserves what we have received.
How anyone can morally vote for someone who is for the Iraq war, for more wars, and for a draft is beyond me.
I'm sorry, WAT?
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:50 pm
by Gypsiyee
I don't think he's saying he's voting for McCain, he's saying we'll end up with him anyway because we're too stupid a nation to vote with our heads, so we'll get what we deserve.
Re: The ACLU
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:54 pm
by Naethyn
I don't plan to vote for McCain. I just have a pessimistic viewpoint.
A result of driving around Pensacola, Florida to see so many McCain bumper stickers.... attached over the Bush 04 stickers.