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Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:34 pm
by Arlos
The McCain campaign keeps imploding worse and worse. The wheels have come off the "Straight Talk Express" big time, not that he's straight talked for months. Read this:

ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (CNN) -- With 10 days until Election Day, long-brewing tensions between GOP vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin and key aides to Sen. John McCain have become so intense, they are spilling out in public, sources say.

Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue."

A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off-message several times, and they privately wonder whether the incidents were deliberate. They cited an instance in which she labeled robocalls -- recorded messages often used to attack a candidate's opponent -- "irritating" even as the campaign defended their use. Also, they pointed to her telling reporters she disagreed with the campaign's decision to pull out of Michigan.

A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.

"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," said this McCain adviser. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."

A Palin associate defended her, saying that she is "not good at process questions" and that her comments on Michigan and the robocalls were answers to process questions.

But this Palin source acknowledged that Palin is trying to take more control of her message, pointing to last week's impromptu news conference on a Colorado tarmac.

Tracey Schmitt, Palin's press secretary, was urgently called over after Palin wandered over to the press and started talking. Schmitt tried several times to end the unscheduled session.

"We acknowledge that perhaps she should have been out there doing more," a different Palin adviser recently said, arguing that "it's not fair to judge her off one or two sound bites" from the network interviews.

The Politico reported Saturday on Palin's frustration, specifically with McCain advisers Nicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt. They helped decide to limit Palin's initial press contact to high-profile interviews with Charlie Gibson of ABC and Katie Couric of CBS, which all McCain sources admit were highly damaging.

In response, Wallace e-mailed CNN the same quote she gave the Politico: "If people want to throw me under the bus, my personal belief is that the most honorable thing to do is to lie there."

But two sources, one Palin associate and one McCain adviser, defended the decision to keep her press interaction limited after she was picked, both saying flatly that she was not ready and that the missteps could have been a lot worse.

They insisted that she needed time to be briefed on national and international issues and on McCain's record.

"Her lack of fundamental understanding of some key issues was dramatic," said another McCain source with direct knowledge of the process to prepare Palin after she was picked. The source said it was probably the "hardest" to get her "up to speed than any candidate in history."

Schmitt came to the back of the plane Saturday to deliver a statement to traveling reporters: "Unnamed sources with their own agenda will say what they want, but from Gov. Palin down, we have one agenda, and that's to win on Election Day."

Yet another senior McCain adviser lamented the public recriminations.

"This is what happens with a campaign that's behind; it brings out the worst in people, finger-pointing and scapegoating," this senior adviser said.

With the presidential race in its final days and polls suggesting that McCain's chances of pulling out a win are growing slim, Palin may be looking after her own future.

"She's no longer playing for 2008; she's playing 2012," Democratic pollster Peter Hart said. "And the difficulty is, when she went on 'Saturday Night Live,' she became a reinforcement of her caricature. She never allowed herself to be vetted, and at the end of the day, voters turned against her both in terms of qualifications and personally."


OK, first, what the fuck is a "Process Question"? How is babbling about Putin rearing his head into airspace when asked when being neighbors to Russia gives her foreign policy experience a "process question"? How about not being able to name anything she reads?

Oh yeah, McCain sure spent a lot of time vetting her, huh? :) This just keeps getting funnier and funnier...

-Arlos

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:06 pm
by Gaazy
we are completely screwed no matter who gets elected.

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:37 am
by Ganzo
Gaazy wrote:we are completely screwed no matter who gets elected.


i'm voting no to both

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:13 pm
by Tikker
Gaazy wrote:we are completely screwed no matter who gets elected.



you have to admit tho, usually politicians come across as either a puppet for a specific industry, crooked, or slimy in some way

Palin just comes across as clueless and not particularly bright

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:17 pm
by 10sun
Ganzo wrote:
Gaazy wrote:we are completely screwed no matter who gets elected.


i'm voting no to both


Thats what they should do.

-Adam

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:20 pm
by Gypsiyee
A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.


I'd be amazed if anyone is actually surprised by this.

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:05 pm
by Gypsiyee
a good read since we're talking about sarah bitchacuda: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08300/922684-109.stm

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:25 pm
by Gaazy
yeah all of them are slimy and crooked. And dont give me any of that 'but obama is the less slimy!' or whatever. He is going to shove his hand in your pocket and his rag covered cock into your ass just the same as McCain and Palin will

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:51 pm
by mappatazee
http://www.youtube.com/v/9nlwwFZdXck

okay i'm a noob and can't imbed youtube

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:08 pm
by Drem
highlight that URL and click the youtube button

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:49 pm
by Tikker
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/9nlwwFZdXck[/youtube]

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:50 pm
by Tikker
doesn't work! omg

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:38 am
by Drem


it didn't have watch?v= in it

anyways. HAHAHAHA. whoever thought of that is brilliant

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:40 am
by Gypsiyee
Gaazy wrote:yeah all of them are slimy and crooked. And dont give me any of that 'but obama is the less slimy!' or whatever. He is going to shove his hand in your pocket and his rag covered cock into your ass just the same as McCain and Palin will


you mean like Clinton did...? wait, no - in my lifetime, the worst times were under republican presidents.

gaazy, didn't you just say a few months ago that you don't follow politics at all and anyone who does is stupid and wasting their time so you don't even bother to vote? if I have a question about coal mining, you'd definitely be the first one I'd come to.. but you'll have to forgive me if I don't heed your word on this.

(PS - I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, so I apologize if that came off too bitchy ><)

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:35 am
by Drem
just watch sarah palin doing jazz talk np

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:27 pm
by Kramer
that's actually funny....

it's as if she has brain farts and gets really excited when they happen...

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:44 pm
by Gaazy
no offense, but you always sound bitchy :wink:

And no, th at was just a few weeks ago that I said that, not months, and I still stand by it. I wander into these threads out of boredom and enjoy watching people go nuts in here while trying to defend their special candidate. If theres ANY place to debate and try to change peoples minds with your opinions, its sure as HELL not the nameless tavern. There is maybe like -2 people here that id say actually care what the other side has to say and would consider anything else but their own beliefs haha

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:45 am
by Drem
Kramer wrote:that's actually funny....

it's as if she has brain farts and gets really excited when they happen...


haha it took me a second to realize that all they did is put the piano track over it. and it fits perfectly. she talks in perfect rhythm. like teh robotz

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:15 am
by brinstar
Drem wrote:

it didn't have watch?v= in it

anyways. HAHAHAHA. whoever thought of that is brilliant


holy shit, i didn't click on that at first because i thought it was the same "putin rearing his head" clip

but that is hilarious

Re: Wow, the wheels are sure coming off...

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:41 am
by araby
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I just get so tickled every time I see this.