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Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:27 am
by Evermore
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:52 am
by Kramer

i don't get what about leaving he presidency leaves a person desperate to make lots of awful decisions that are difficult to overturn, like many of the pardons presidents make
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:01 am
by Gypsiyee
I'm not well-versed in the history of these types of situations, but I'd be interested to know if when the same party succeeded the current presidency if the same types of decisions have been made historically?
it seems that it's just some petty "really stick it to ya" partisanship move. he can't think that this is a good idea, surely? I mean yeah he's a disaster and an embarrassment as president and human being but I like to think that he's got a few brain cells floating around in there or some ounce of humanity. even the tiniest sliver of concern for others would be at least a little reassuring.
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:09 pm
by Tuggan
he's been pushing this kinda shit for the last 8 years, why would he stop?
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:14 pm
by Arlos
And since when has he ever acted in any way other than that he believes he is absolutely right about everything, with no allowance for any other point of view?
-Arlos
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:42 pm
by Gypsiyee
I try to tell myself that no one can be that stupid I guess. I try to think that there's got to be some grain of thought in everyone. you'd think that when even your own party doesn't want you at their convention you might say 'well damn, maybe I can try to do a little better the last couple months I'm here and go out with a little bit of dignity'
it's like he wants make sure every ounce of his legacy is laced with terrible, from beginning to end. I mean most logical people would want to be remembered for at least one good thing, you'd think, or in the very least, 'one less bad thing'.. but not him, apparently.
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:56 pm
by Lionking
Bush pardons. Clinton pardons. One and the same. Get over it.
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:02 pm
by Arlos
Lionking, we're not talking about pardons. We're talking about federal rules and regulations that Bush is enacting that have the force of law, that following presidents can't just undo, it is a major process. These are things like allowing powerplants to be built right next to national parks, making it harder to protect workers from hazardous chemicals, etc.
Completely and totally different from pardons. I'm sure there will be an uproar abotu those, too, but that's just letting crooks off the hook. THIS is about major changes in federal law that are being done at the last minute as part of a completely ideological fanaticism, to make it as hard as possible for sane future administrations to undo. *BIG* difference.
-Arlos
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:46 pm
by ClakarEQ
Lionking wrote:Bush pardons. Clinton pardons. One and the same. Get over it.
While not specifically about pardons, Bush and his last days and what he is making law is greater than any other president. Again he is making history in his failures, he has topped all other presidents in regards to his last days and the laws he is working onto the books. He is a failure at epic levels; no one else comes close and these last days are even more proof.
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:43 pm
by Drem
wish i could find my old post where i said this kinda stuff was probably gonna happen. he's like a 12-year-old that's completely unaware of anything but his agenda
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:31 pm
by Lionking
Arlos wrote:Lionking, we're not talking about pardons. We're talking about federal rules and regulations that Bush is enacting that have the force of law, that following presidents can't just undo, it is a major process. These are things like allowing powerplants to be built right next to national parks, making it harder to protect workers from hazardous chemicals, etc.
Completely and totally different from pardons. I'm sure there will be an uproar abotu those, too, but that's just letting crooks off the hook. THIS is about major changes in federal law that are being done at the last minute as part of a completely ideological fanaticism, to make it as hard as possible for sane future administrations to undo. *BIG* difference.
-Arlos
Well holy shit, my bad. I'll take reading comprehension for $100, Alex.
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:19 pm
by brinstar
huh? i will teach you reading comprehension for $100 np
Re: Is it January yet?
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:33 am
by Lionking
brinstar wrote:huh? i will teach you reading comprehension for $100 np
Damn it, I knew that was coming.
