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He's Goddamned lucky somebody didn't burn his building down. Fucking asstard. Kudos to the police.

The police violated his freedom of speech not to mention they tampered with his private property.

Now, I love being an American and all, but people really need to get over the whole flag defacing thing. I don't jump up and cheer when someone does something like that and it's not that I don't care, but I'm not gonna cause a big spectacle over it either. I just find it really stupid that police, the ones that are supposed to protect our rights and uphold our laws, would go against constitutional amendments and break laws on the anniversary of our countries founding. That's like a Jew celebrating Yom Kippur with a swastika branded pork chop for dinner.

why are you such a white trash piece of shit mindia?

And Mindia, would you have encouraged someone to burn down his building?

Seriously though, maybe you should drive out there and give him a piece of your mind considering it's such a big deal.

The white trash piece of shit is one who burns the U.S. flag, or hangs it upside down, etc. If you don't like this country, GTFO.

Mindia I dont know if you know this or not but upside down flag is a symbol of distress. Nother thing i dont get about you is why the fuck do you care what some dude 900 miles away from you does with his american flag.


You seem to be the one that is having the problem with the laws in this country perhaps it is you who should get out ?

Spazz wrote:Mindia I dont know if you know this or not but upside down flag is a symbol of distress. Nother thing i dont get about you is why the fuck do you care what some dude 900 miles away from you does with his american flag.


You seem to be the one that is having the problem with the laws in this country perhaps it is you who should get out ?

It all comes from my pride in being American. There needs to be a law made to protect our flag from desecration. I'm sick of these fucking retards playing the "freedom of speech" or "freedom of expression" card when they fuck with the flag. Fuck them. Get out.

Yes, because we don't waste enough time making trivial laws as it is. And considering the "fucking asstard" is an Iraq war vet, I'd be willing to bet he's done more for this country than you. He's the real deal, you're a cliche wannabe. Just keep driving your truck and shut the fuck up redneck.

NS

when kim read that she went "what? how can they just go and do that? isn't this the country of freedom?"

I am really amazed at how backwards-thinking people really are. /boggle

you're taking a simple thing being done by a real American that's actually spent time at war and blowing it into precisely whatever you feel like. how could you ever have an opinion that weighs in half as heavy as his?

quit whining and shut the fuck up. go outside and enjoy something besides hawking bad links about unimportant issues that make you look like a fuckin douchebag

and i actually really agree with spazz

all you do is talk about this idealistic version of our government that doesn't actually exist. you never care about the people. you always side with some bizarre logic about how the law is always right. go live in China if all you want in life is a government that shits on everyone that does something minutely wrong. see how fun it is when something this retarded happens to you. or, keep being a sheep for government because you can't think for yourself. i don't really care

Drem wrote:and i actually really agree with spazz

all you do is talk about this idealistic version of our government that doesn't actually exist. you never care about the people. you always side with some bizarre logic about how the law is always right. go live in China if all you want in life is a government that shits on everyone that does something minutely wrong. see how fun it is when something this retarded happens to you. or, keep being a sheep for government because you can't think for yourself. i don't really care

omg ROFL. I'm not the one who voted for Obama... One Big Ass Mistake America. You fuckers that were born and raised in the concrete jungle need to get out of your little boxes. Go out in the country, watch/listen to CMT, go camping... discover God and Americana. Go out and meet the people who build America and uphold America's values. I don't expect a lot of you dumbfucks to understand, especially those of you living in big urban cities. Once you truly understand what America is all about, then you too will understand why shitbags who desecrate the U.S. flag piss REAL people off. You'll also gain an understanding of how fucked up our government is right now, and that "leftist values" and lawmakers are fucking EVERYTHING up about what America stands for. There's no "bizarre logic" about it. If you're wondering why I threw barry into the picture at the beginning of this response it's because that asshole embraces the very CRAP that fucks America up. I'm pissed off about our current government, but you won't catch me burning the flag, or flying it upside down. I'm way above that, and I respect the flag and this country more than that.

The thing is, Mindia, the Constitution protects *ALL* political speech, not just that which we like or happen to agree with, or that is "safe". For example, I don't think ANYTHING anyone does with the Flag can even begin to approach the level of disgusting putridity and filth that groups like the KKK or the Neo Nazis spew, and whil eI reject their message absolutely, I also believe they have the right to MAKE their message.

You have every right to feel whatever you want on a personal level about what that guy does. You have the right to go picket his business establishment if you so choose in protest of what he is doing. But neither you, nor especially the government, have any right to tell the man what he may or may not say, nor how he chooses to go about saying it, so long as he's not out there blowing people up or something to say it. Even if you hate what the guy did, what the police did was wrong, just as much as if they'd marched up on to someone's lawn and torn down a campaign sign, say. I'm sorry, but righteous moral indignation does not constitute an excuse for breaking the law, even if you agree with the sentiment behind what they did.

Remember too the guy in question here *IS* a veteran, and one who served actually in combat. You don't think he knows what the flag means to people? If he's choosing to do what he did still, that just shows the depth of his current feeling on the issue, given how strong a statement he's making. Also, he didn't burn the flag or damage it in any way. Just hunt it upside down.

Lastly, I must say that I disagree completely with your assessment on "real americans." The people out where you are support YOUR values, sure, but that doesn't make them necessarily "American" values, just what you think they should be. Living in the country doesn't make you better than people living in the cities, just different. Just as San Francisco is different from Detroit is different from Memphis. I am no less real for living in the Silicon valley than is someone who lives on a farm in a completely rural area, and I am no better, nor any worse than they are. Just different. See, I can accept the fact you have different beliefs than me, and think where you want to take the country is wrong and bad for us, as evidenced at least partially by the last 8 years. Why can you not respect that others' beliefs are just as strong to them as yours are to you, and they have just as much right to them as you do to yours?

-Arlos

The people who found it disrespectful of the flag to fly it upside down need to actually do some reading. There is a very long tradition of flying a flag upside down as a sign of distress and the local police had absolutely no right to remove it. The guy at a minimum deserves a very public apology from the local police

and considering all forward progress and trends basically come from big cities like NYC, and being raised in a tiny town in the country myself, i have to say people living in the country are living in a different world. completely

Go out in the country, watch/listen to CMT, go camping... discover God and Americana.

This quote is definitely top 10 Mindia for me. Thank you for this.

"watch/listen to CMT", HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

Ginzburgh wrote:

Go out in the country, watch/listen to CMT, go camping... discover God and Americana.

This quote is definitely top 10 Mindia for me. Thank you for this.

"watch/listen to CMT", HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

Or you can continue being an ignorant metrosexual homotard. Seems to fit you well.

as a proud american i am surprised you dont display pride in another american protesting in a vulgar way. our country was founded by people who burned the king in effigy (a traitorous thing) and peeing on the brittish flag

FYI guys I've never been camping. I guess that means I know nothing about America.

what? really? not even in your backyard or something?

Ginzburgh wrote:

Go out in the country, watch/listen to CMT, go camping... discover God and Americana.

This quote is definitely top 10 Mindia for me. Thank you for this.

"watch/listen to CMT", HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

holy shit

Or you can continue being an ignorant metrosexual homotard. Seems to fit you well.

Mmm hmm

Jay wrote:FYI guys I've never been camping. I guess that means I know nothing about America.

That explains a lot, but you should really try it some time.

You should really try scrap booking.