hurr durr we 2 greed strike now we no has jorbs hurr durr
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:38 am
by brinstar
or maybe if hostess administration had cared more about their workers instead of pocketing that extra little bit of cash each year, they could've stayed afloat
works both ways, asshole
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:13 am
by brinstar
hmmmm so if you actually read more than headlines, you'll discover:
this is certainly not the first time hostess has declared bankruptcy (THIS YEAR, let alone this century) the company was "bailed out" by bain-style hedge fund gamblers who kept dumping debt on Hostess while increasing their share value during bankruptcy proceedings, the CEO got a 300% raise (and 9 others at the top level of management had their salaries doubled)
so yes, let's blame the unions, who correctly called bullshit on management's ultimatum to take an 8% pay cut in the spirit of "shared sacrifice"
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:47 am
by Drem
Ya we were talking about this a year ago at work when they went bankrupt the first time. This has been long overdue. My favorite part is how some are trying to blame this on obamacare
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:20 pm
by Kaemon
They didn't adapt, it's an empty calorie product that when we were kids we always ate and our moms gave them to us.
This day and age, we're more nutrionally informed. The brand didn't change it's course and found itself in fiscal trouble because it wasn't moving off the shelves as it did even 20 years ago.
Did management help by giving themselves increases? No Did turning over a 6 CEO's in 10 years help in it's stabilty and help foster a partnership with it's employees? Nope Did the union help in staying on strike? I don't know, if they went back to work, how long will they have still been a viable company and stayed employed? It just sucks that it's happening right before the holiday.
I believe everyone is to blame in this outcome.
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:52 pm
by Narrock
No, it's 100% the unions fault. Fuck unions. They fuck everything up that they get involved with. Assholes.
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:55 pm
by brinstar
The Onion wrote:No, it's 100% the unions fault. Fuck unions. They fuck everything up that they get involved with. Assholes.
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:58 pm
by Narrock
brinstar wrote:
The Onion wrote:No, it's 100% the unions fault. Fuck unions. They fuck everything up that they get involved with. Assholes.
Face it. Unions suck.
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:00 pm
by brinstar
join one, scab
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:07 pm
by Narrock
brinstar wrote:join one, scab
I was a union carpenter for 4 years. Assholes didn't do SHIT for me. Most private sector construction companies only make you wait 90 days before your benefits kick in. Union made me wait 180 days. That's twice as long, and a shitty thing to do to a member who is in an injury-prone profession. And as far as trucking goes, a "Teamster" union trucker makes less money than what they could make as a non-union trucker. Again, fuck unions. Fucking communist bastards.
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:14 pm
by brinstar
Narrock wrote:I was a union carpenter for 4 years. Assholes didn't do SHIT for me. Most private sector construction companies only make you wait 90 days before your benefits kick in. Union made me wait 180 days. That's twice as long, and a shitty thing to do to a member who is in an injury-prone profession. And as far as trucking goes, a "Teamster" union trucker makes less money than what they could make as a non-union trucker. Again, fuck unions. Fucking communist bastards.
hahahaha who's greedy now
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:35 pm
by Narrock
My bad. I guess I was under the false impression that benefits should kick in sooner than 6 months, and to make a liveable wage. I mean wtf was I thinking???
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:42 pm
by brinstar
good, you agree employers should pay a livable wage. now can we agree that it's ridiculous to let people making 7-digit salaries decide exactly what a livable wage is?
and btw there are tons of professions in which benefits do not kick in right away. here's an idea: if you think that's unjust, perhaps you should have stuck around and organized for such a goal rather than fucking off lol
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:49 pm
by Narrock
brinstar wrote:good, you agree employers should pay a livable wage. now can we agree that it's ridiculous to let people making 7-digit salaries decide exactly what a livable wage is?
and btw there are tons of professions in which benefits do not kick in right away. here's an idea: if you think that's unjust, perhaps you should have stuck around and organized for such a goal rather than fucking off lol
The private sector DOES pay a liveable wage, AND provides excellent benefits (for the time being). You'll see what happens when you tax them even more. It's coming, and it's going to force those companies to lay people off or switch them to part-time status. Good job obummer!
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:12 am
by Harrison
Lol mindia swoops in and invalidates the whole thread
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:43 pm
by Gaazy
i saw on ebay where boxes of twinkies are sellin for 40 bucks a box. How sad rofl
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:45 pm
by 10sun
Didn't the bankruptcy judge order Hostess to reopen negotiations?
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:33 pm
by brinstar
Gaazy wrote:i saw on ebay where boxes of twinkies are sellin for 40 bucks a box. How sad rofl
that's dumb
there's like half a dozen companies that would buy the brand and keep making twinkies if the vulture capitalists have their way
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:48 am
by Gaazy
i saw a lady at wal mart with cart FULL of the fuckers the other day
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:01 am
by Tossica
This is all probably a PR campaign for Twinkies.
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:27 am
by Zanchief
Maybe the owner of Hostess should make fun of gay people to drum up business.
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:16 pm
by Drem
I remember them going bankrupt a year ago. They're officially dead now? Awesome
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:13 pm
by Spazz
I can live without twinkies and dont eat them often. That said it is sad to know that ill never get stoned and eat a box of em ever again.
Re: Union greed strikes again, buhbye 18k jobs at Hostess
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:04 pm
by brinstar
^^^ uhh spazzbro ^^^
brinstar wrote:there's like half a dozen companies that would buy the brand and keep making twinkies
anyway after the bankruptcy judge ordered mediation, talks broke down again today. liquidation here we come
gg bad management
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