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Why is it hate-mongering, stereotyping, or bigotry to make any sort of opinion on groups of people like "Germans" or "the French" or "gays," but it's completely koscher to make broad derogitory generalizations about "rednecks" "NASCAR Fans" or "hicks?"

They're all groups of people, whether or not they're grouped by ethnicity or nationality. But it's always the Super Defenders of Peoples Rights who jump down on anyone with a negative view of any group of people and instantly label them NASCAR loving redneck bigots. Isn't that hypocritical? Notice no where did I mention "racism." That's a different subject. Really it doesn't bother me, I'm not offended by it in any way even considering I'm one of those NASCAR loving redneck fuckers, because I find stereotypes like that to be amusing. And yes I know, I have a choice to be a member of that group, while gays or French do not have a choice to be part of those respective "groups."

I'm just wondering how the Super Defenders can justify the hypocrasy of defending one stereotypical group by degrading another. Now, redneck Wisconsin humor.


Jeff Foxworthy on Wisconsin

If you consider it a sport to gather your food by drilling through 18
inches of ice and sitting there all day hoping that the food will swim by,
you might live in Wisconsin.

If you're proud that your region makes the national news 96 nights each
year because International Falls is the coldest spot in the nation, you
might live in Wisconsin.

If you have ever refused to buy something because it's "too spendy", you
might live in Wisconsin.

If your local Dairy Queen is closed from November through March, you might
live in Wisconsin.

If you instinctively walk like a penguin for five months out of the year,
you might live in Wisconsin.

If someone in a store offers you assistance, and they don't work there, you
might live in Wisconsin.

If your dad's suntan stops at a line curving around the middle of his
forehead, you might live in
Wisconsin.

If you may not have actually eaten it, but you have heard of Lutefisk, you
might live in Wisconsin.

If you have worn shorts and a parka at the same time, you might live in
Wisconsin.

If you have either a pet or a child named "Brett", you might live in
Wisconsin.

If your town has more bars than churches, you might live in Wisconsin.

If you have had a lengthy telephone conversation with someone who dialed a
wrong number, you might live in Wisconsin.

If you know how to say Oconomowoc, Waukesha, Menomonee & Manitowoc, you
might live in Wisconsin.

If you think that ketchup is a little too spicy, you might live in
Wisconsin.

If every time you see moonlight on a lake, you think of a dancing bear, and
you sing gently, "From the land of sky-blue waters, you might live in
Wisconsin.


Series II. YOU KNOW YOU ARE A TRUE WISCONSINITE WHEN:


Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor on the
highway.

"Vacation" means going up north past Hwy 10 for the weekend.

You measure distance in hours.

You know several people who have hit deer more than once.

You often switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day and back again.

Your whole family wears Packer Green to church on Sunday.

You can drive 65 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard,
without flinching.

You see people wearing camouflage at social events. (Including weddings)

You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both
unlocked.

You think of the major food groups as beer, fish, and venison.

You carry jumper cables in your car and your girlfriend knows how to use
them.

There are 7 empty cars running in the parking lot at Mill's Fleet Farm at
any given time.

You design your kid's Halloween costume to fit over a snowsuit.

Driving is better in the winter because the potholes are filled with snow.

You refer to the Packers as "we."

You know all 4 seasons: almost winter, winter, still winter and road
construction.

You can identify a southern or eastern accent.

You have no problem pronouncing Lac Du Flambeau.

You consider Minneapolis exotic.

You know how to polka.

Your idea of creative landscaping is a statue of a deer next to your blue
spruce.

You were unaware that there is a legal drinking age.

Down South to you means Iowa.

A brat is something you eat.

Your neighbor throws a party to celebrate his new pole shed.

You go out to fish fry every Friday

Your 4th of July picnic was moved indoors due to frost.

You have more miles on your snow blower than your car.

You find 0 degrees "a little chilly."

NASCAR is stupid because it's a bunch of cars driving in circles

You find 0 degrees "a little chilly."

Screw you thats MA not Wisconsin!

That's cool Drunkken. But not my point. I don't go around calling people I disagree with "eurotrash soccer fans" even though I think soccer is a ridiculous sport, I'm not going to generalize every soccer fan in the world because of it.

but they're eurotrash soccer fans :o

my hidden agenda was that maybe the nature of the sport is why people mock the fans so much

when i was a kid i watched nascar when i was bored in the summer, but i was just dreaming of a crash

it's also interesting that rally racing seems to be mostly watched by rich young white males

Drunnken wrote:NASCAR is stupid because it's a bunch of cars driving in circles

A 2 mile course with 42 people going 200 mph is simple but...

Basketball with a small court, two hoops, and 10 freak show people trying to put it in said bucket is better?

Or Football with 100 yards, 2 endzones, and 22 morons with verbal ability that is surpassed by your average primate, trying to cross a ball over a line is MUCH more complex.

Golf, with its 18 holes in a big grassy knolls, fat old guys, etc...

Anyways, you get the point. All sports are simplistic.

Nascar is actually much more complex than the average sport, with a variety of courses, heavy competition, but feel free to condescend in a manner that makes you appear moronic.

Now, feel free to insult Nascar, with their Mechanical Engineers, Wind Tunnels, and advancanced aeronatics, and move back to your sport of choice, with its intelligent representation of advancement of the species, which probably is Allen Iverson, Ty Law, or John Daly....

Lol a lot of that stuff sounds more like Michigan ><

Adivina is right. 0 degrees is only a little chilly :P

And nascar is fucking stupid because it's a bunch of cars racing in a circle, if it was a more interesting circuit I might be 1% interested instead of 0%.

Gogo run-on sentences.

Lyion - they're not talking about the drivers, the designers, or the pit crews... their talking about the fans.

I challenge some of you Nascar fans to stand to the side and watch the admissions gates at the next race you go to. Tell me that that isn't the biggest herd of white trash people you've seen since the last Country Music Spring Fling outdoor concert in Alabama.

I've seen them go by... Atlanta Motorspeedway and the CocaCola 500... people at truck-pulls don't even look that inbred.

i think most sports are silly to be honest but you can watch what you want i guess

Tell me that that isn't the biggest herd of white trash people you've seen since the last Country Music Spring Fling outdoor concert in Alabama.

And basketball games are a nigger gathering, what's your point?

hi tax

/agree Taxx.

No Point.

Lyion wrote:Nascar is actually much more complex than the average sport, with a variety of courses, heavy competition, but feel free to condescend in a manner that makes you appear moronic.

Now, feel free to insult Nascar, with their Mechanical Engineers, Wind Tunnels, and advancanced aeronatics, and move back to your sport of choice, with its intelligent representation of advancement of the species, which probably is Allen Iverson, Ty Law, or John Daly....

Gladly.

All the 'Mechanical Engineers, Wind Tunnels, and advanced aeronautics' can basically be reproduced by attaching a toy car at the end of a length a string and spinning it around in circles while screaming "VROOM".

I like basketball and Hockey. I like them because I can watch them, and then go and play them for exercise. Nascar fans are fat, un-athletic people who can sit in front of a TV for god knows how many hours, getting drunk, and watching some cars spin around and around. VROOOOM!

nascar is cool cause people die in it~

Mechanical engineers, windtunnels, etc? The cars are required to run restrictor plates on the carbs at tracks like Daytona to keep the speed down. Why? Because they feel that drivers wouldn't be able keep them on the tracks through the corners. Personally I think that if a driver doesn't have the brains to slow down for a turn, even if it is banked to some God awful degree, then they should be allowed to crash and die and let someone else who knows how to drive step up. And why should they need wind tunnels anyway? The thing that would make NASCAR great is by returning to it's roots and running cars that someone could go down to the dealership and get something close to. Cars in NASCAR in the 50's and 60's were pretty much stock with a rollcage and some engine tuning. Now they have templates for the cars so one manufacturer doesn't have too much of an advantage. Boo hoo. If that manufacturer wants to win, they should build a more aerodynamic car then. And that's why NASCAR sucks.

"And that's why NASCAR sucks."

No. It sucks because the fans suck.

Anyone see the movie "Black Sunday"?

A couple of those a year at NASCAR races and the only people voting for assholes like Bush will be the rich folks and well, there are a lot more poor folks than there are rich...

That's not why they have restrictor plates. It's because higher speed=less stability. When you have 4 cars side by side at 220 mph on a 30 degree banking it's not good. Higher speed=more fatalities=bad for the sport, if you want to call it a sport.

I'm not a "nascar fan" but I enjoy any type of racing.

Take the restrictors off. Add machine guns, oil slicks, smoke screens and maybe a red homing turtle shell and I'll watch NASCAR.

Scoota McGee wrote:Take the restrictors off. Add machine guns, oil slicks, smoke screens and maybe a red homing turtle shell and I'll watch NASCAR.

Call it "Car Wars".

Scoota McGee wrote:Take the restrictors off. Add machine guns, oil slicks, smoke screens and maybe a red homing turtle shell and I'll watch NASCAR.

Now that is a sport.

You'd be VERY suprised if you really the demographic range of NASCAR fans. NASCAR isn't just enjoyed by guys with two first names who are addicted to Budwieser and beating their wives. You've got doctors, judges, elected officials, managers, and 'everything' else under the sun hooked on the sport.

The thing is: these types of professionals don't sport huge #3 stickers on the backs of their Jags or BMW's. You typically see racing stickers on the backs of pickups... stuck right next to their confederate flag sticker.

So, while you get Budda-Ray walking around with his #24 shirt on, you'll never see that with a doctor who may actually be a bigger fan. Thus, because the more educated professional types don't tout their love of the sport in the form of clothing or stickers, and you only see the rednecks doing it, it becomes easy to associate the sport with hillbillies and rednecks.

"Rednecks" are also into football, and are probably just as fanatical about it as they are with NASCAR, does that mean all football fans are rednecks too?

Edit-

Ohh let me add, wearing a racing shirt, hat, whatever doesn't make you a "redneck" anymore than wearing a basketball jersey makes you a "gangster."

but its a bunch of cars driving in circles for 4 hour

i dunno if i was a lawyer i think i could think of a lot better things to do with my time

Trust me on this... I live in the South... I know :D

I like the part where people yell at rednecks for being idiotic bigots who don't deserve the right to make choices.

I guess that's not seen as racism as it's a majority view. Irony rules.