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How to learn self defense?

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:30 pm
by Dylan
I bit the bullet and got a gym membership and go three times a week. Every time I go I start off with a 40 minute walk on a tred mill that changes incline every minute or so, then after that I do different arm and ab work outs.

Anyway, I've started to notice that I actually am starting to have muscles, which can be a good thing and a bad thing... good thing is that no one will try to rob me or anything, bad thing is some guys might actually want to test me, which has happened before with bad results for me.

Now for the point of the thread: Whats the best way to learn self defense that could be entwined with a bi-daily workout?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:13 am
by Mop
laff, someone is oging to test you because of your muscle?

Wtf I have never had that happen.

Um well I would suggest if it is that big of a problem I would try and get into a real class.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:51 am
by Ganzo
Take Boxing, great cardio and will help if you get in the fight unlike kung-phooee

Altho, if you can't talk your way out of a fight that is based on "I actually am starting to have muscles... some guys might actually want to test me" you ether in High School or live on a difrent planet

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:31 am
by Darcler
Boxing would be good if you wanted something to do IN the gym. Take Kung Fu at an actual school if you want self defense. There are actual self defense classes (i think) or you can go for the gold and take the classes. You'd learn blocks and how to take someone down in seconds.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:38 pm
by Tadpole
haha, all the kids pick on dylan. fight them back, duh. dont just sit there and do nothing.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:12 pm
by Shannan
I used to do kickboxing and it was a great workout, and you learn self defense!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:38 pm
by Ganzo
Darcler wrote:Boxing would be good if you wanted something to do IN the gym. Take Kung Fu at an actual school if you want self defense. There are actual self defense classes (i think) or you can go for the gold and take the classes. You'd learn blocks and how to take someone down in seconds.
Yah, cause that shit works in real fight

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:06 pm
by Darcler
Point in Kung Fu is not to fight. Thats the point in any martial art. You dont use to it fight, you use it to evade and pin. If he is getting picked on in school, he uses it until a teacher comes to break it up. Schools here will suspend you, even if you hit out of self defense. Do the blocking shit and they cant get you in trouble.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:08 pm
by DangerPaul
Just get the shit kicked out of you about 300 times, you learn how to beat the hell out of people that way.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:20 pm
by Darcler
And after a while, you wont even notice it hurts anymore :)

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:38 am
by Diekan
If you're up north you might be able to find a wrestling club... (not that professional shit). If not give boxing a try. Martial Arts are a joke (IMO) sorry to those of you who love it... I've never seen ANYONE use it and win a fight... looks great on the big screen, but in real life most fights end up on the ground.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:15 am
by Ganzo
Diekan wrote: but in real life most fights end up on the ground.

in real life, most fights is 5 kicking one who's on the ground

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:40 am
by labbats
I want to learn how to fight... so... I don't have to fight.

Aye.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:23 am
by 10sun
Get steel toed shoes and maintain a kicking distance.

-Adam

Re: How to learn self defense?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:02 am
by kaharthemad
Dylan wrote:Now for the point of the thread: Whats the best way to learn self defense that could be entwined with a bi-daily workout?



Handgun man... You get a 50cal the kick will work ouy your arms :)


seriously, the best thing I could tell you is find a good amrtial arts class.
If you want a really good work out try Kempo. nothing like wearing armourer scurrying in a squat position and swinging a heavy ass sword around

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:24 pm
by Dylan
To be clear, yes I am in high school, have an entire year left.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:45 am
by Captain Insano
Darcler wrote:Boxing would be good if you wanted something to do IN the gym. Take Kung Fu at an actual school if you want self defense. There are actual self defense classes (i think) or you can go for the gold and take the classes. You'd learn blocks and how to take someone down in seconds.



skip kung fu and karate and all that fancy crap... That stuff is only good for keeping people like Jean Claude employed.

If you want to hold your own on the street learn a little boxing and some grappling.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:47 pm
by Gidan
Kung Fu, if you learn it from a good school is extremely effective. However you would either need to take it for a very long time or have extreme dedication to it for a while to be of any use at all. If you went that route dont expect to do any of the BS you see on TV or in the movies. Its all just that BS. The real thing is dirty and hard.

If you are just looking for something that is a good workout and that is useful. Kickboxing is the way to go. Its a great workout and is useful.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:38 pm
by Captain Insano
I've studied kung fu and I totally disagree on its real life effectiveness. I think the average boxer would tear a kung fu guy apart in a street fight.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:02 pm
by Gidan
I have studied it, I have taught it, I have used it. It works extremely well, if not too well for protecting yourself. I will admit that the grappling that we teach is the most effective of everything. We did also see the effectivness of kickboxing and I tought that as well.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:07 pm
by Lyion
Spar

Find a partner who knows basic boxing and fight.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:21 pm
by DangerPaul
I already said, get into about 300 fights. First, it toughens you up, second its a good workout, and third, if you fight that many times, you naturally become a badass irl.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:13 pm
by Captain Insano
Lyion wrote:Spar

Find a partner who knows basic boxing and fight.



Yep... that was how the Marine Corps did it... They put you in a ring before they teach you anything.

I had plenty of students who were "kungfu badasses" too... They got their shit wrecked in the ring every damn time whether it was against a boxer or grappler. Kungfu was designed hundreds of years ago and is still the same. The street fighter has been advancing way past that ever since.