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Conflicts of interest

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:11 pm
by Rust
Interesting to see how certain moderators will lock threads, delete posts, edit posts by others or threaten posters for criticizing them and pointing out time and time again that they're uninformed about subjects.

This has happened over and over again, and it's kind of tiresome when a moderator uses his or her powers when they're getting their head kicked in. The rest of us can't do it, why should they? If they can't support their claims, they should stop being stupid enough to make them, no?

Maybe if a given moderator is angry about losing an argument, they can ask another moderator to take care of it instead?

--R.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:25 pm
by Phlegm
who are these moderators?

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:25 pm
by Narrock
Phlegm wrote:who are these moderators?


You've got to be kidding... you really don't know who he's talking about?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:12 am
by Arlos
Name starts with an L and ends with a yion.

-Arlos

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:44 am
by Gidan
Actually if you really want to get specific, Lyion is an admin and can do what he pleases. He doesn't exactly answer to anyone.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:54 am
by Lyion
There are mulitple mods and admins. If anyone has a specific issue anyone can talk to them, or one can PM Vonkaar as he is the captain of the ship here.

I certainly make mistakes, and I'm glad to look at them and discuss things.

I do not touch EE, CC, or unmodded forums at all. I rarely touch the moderated forums. I don't appreciate accusations of censoring as the only thing I censor are personal information or personal attacks.

I'll be glad to look at anything and anyone can PM me. However, if one is looking for consensus regarding ad hoc personal attacks in moderated forums, then sorry, that is not up for democratic debate or discussion.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:42 am
by Phlegm
Mindia wrote:
Phlegm wrote:who are these moderators?


You've got to be kidding... you really don't know who he's talking about?


He wrote moderators, plural. I was just wondering who were the others.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:17 am
by vonkaar
lyion wrote:one can PM Vonkaar as he is the captain of the ship here.


:teehee:

I'm around every 72 hours or so. I promise PROMPT response!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:03 pm
by labbats
I would like an orange sherbert, please.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:01 pm
by Tikker
lyion wrote:. I rarely touch the moderated forums. I don't appreciate accusations of censoring as the only thing I censor are personal information or personal attacks.


The problem is that you're one of the worst people on the board for tossing insults, but when you are insulted, you moderate the thread to your liking


actually let me rephrase that


The threads that you get owned in get moderated in a fashion to make it seem like you're abusing your mod priviledges

If someone else is doing it for you, get them to stop

if you're doing it, stop

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:15 pm
by Zanchief
vonkaar wrote:
lyion wrote:one can PM Vonkaar as he is the captain of the ship here.


:teehee:

I'm around every 72 hours or so. I promise PROMPT response!!!


Captain Vonkaar.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:19 pm
by araby
Is he changing someone else's post?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:20 pm
by Harrison
Rust probably said a bunch of stupid shit and he got deleted

Now he's crying...

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:21 pm
by Tossica
Lyion locks threads when he is getting his handed to him in debates.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:50 pm
by Lyion
Tikker wrote:
lyion wrote:. I rarely touch the moderated forums. I don't appreciate accusations of censoring as the only thing I censor are personal information or personal attacks.


The problem is that you're one of the worst people on the board for tossing insults, but when you are insulted, you moderate the thread to your liking

The threads that you get owned in get moderated in a fashion to make it seem like you're abusing your mod priviledges


Left wing vs right wing politics aside this is very hypocritical and complete bullshit. I argue you to show some examples. Show me mod abuse at all, please. An OP requested lock is not mod abuse, sorry. Removing extreme nastiness in moderated forums is not mod abuse.

I will absolutely toss and recieve insults happily in EE when someone wishes to troll and be nasty. So will Vonk and the others. I do not moderate EE. I do not moderate or censor the unmod'ed forums at all. I mod and keep people <mostly> following the rules in the moderated ones. Show me doing a personal attack in a moderated forum, Tikker.

The simple fact is a good percentage of people are pretty happy with the way I mod, and even those who do not agree with me tend to accept I try and do things fairly. Those who don't tend to share a common theme. I have no problems with criticism and I admit when I've made mistakes, which has happened.

Given the fact I've almost never edited a Toss post, and he habitually skirts the line and personally insults me all the time is really all the proof I need to give from my perspective.

The boards aren't perfect, but saying I frequently or even almost ever abuse mod powers is a simply not true.

Also, just because I post often does not mean I mod much.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:00 pm
by araby
do you edit other people's posts?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:08 pm
by Lyion
You have almost 3000 posts here, Araby. Ever have one edited?

Anyways, PM me if you have individual questions for me. I'll get out of the board feedback.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:30 pm
by araby
No, I don't think so. Not that I know of, anyway.

anyway, my point is, that locking threads is one thing...but editing people's posts is another. Editing your own post is, too.

I just wondered what the bitching was about really.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:38 pm
by Narrock
Somebody make a poll in EE that goes something like this:

Lyion frequently abuses his moderator powers, and should be relinquished of his moderation ability

Yes

No

But then again... he would probably delete that thread.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:29 pm
by brinstar
go ahead

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:17 pm
by Narrock
ok

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:07 am
by Harrison
Lyion is an ADMIN, not mod.

You aren't going to get him stripped of anything.

He could delete your account if he felt like it.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:43 am
by vonkaar
Well... he's also a mod, so... saying, 'the mods' are unfair would include...

Kaemon, Nebulis, Mondinga, Mudcrush, Mop, Azlana, Lyion, Martrae and myself (who happens to be Mindia, apparently).

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:34 pm
by Martrae
I resent that! I'm fair!












In fact, I'm so fair I'm pasty!

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:07 pm
by The Kizzy
MARTRAE, KAHAR PULLED MY HAIR