OK, no more arguing, we KNOW the worst NFL team

[Arlos]

And that team is the 49ers.

In The Shit Bowl, a mighty matchup of truly awful 1-9 teams, the 49ers got utterly manhandled by the Dolphins. It wasn't even close.


Now, the question is, how badly will this ownership and management group screw up having the first overall pick? Given how bad they've fucked up the team so far, I can only dream. If they keep it, they'll use it to whoever they can sign cheapest, not who would best help the team. If they don't keep it, they're going to trade it for far far less than its value. (A late first, a late 5th, and 27 lbs of fish)

The only way the 49ers ever return to any semblance of even adequacy is if York actually grows 2 more brain cells (giving him a total of 3), and sells the team. Larry Ellison wants to buy it. A forlorn and hopeless dream, perhaps, but in these days, it's all we 49ers fans have.

-Arlos

[labbats]

On a similar note, I would love to see the top-ranked college team play the worst NFL team every year.

That's entertainment.

[Arlos]

The 49ers would lose to UC Berkeley right now, no question about it. And Cal isn't even the best team in the Pac 10....

-Arlos

[Malluas]

lol 9ers would lose to Duke in football hehe

[Carnhus]

haha Niners suck!
Another 80s tradition DEAD!


With love
The Raiders

[Tacks]

Guys the top ranked college team wouldn't touch the worst NFL team.

[Malluas]

that include the 0-14 tampa bay bucs from back in the day?

sorry taxx... the top 3 teams could beat the 9ers. At least the Fins have defense.

When Aj Feely looks like john Elway not including his half a hip, dislocated finger, and overall looking like he was gonna die on the field, then you cant make that comparison.

Name one 9er that was as good as anyone on the top 3 college teams (playing atm)... right now i can't think of anyone playing as of now. Peterson is better and Newberry but they are both hurt.

None of the 9ers would start on the top 3 in the nation. Minus winborn MAYBE.

They would lose to USC OU or Auburn

[Carnhus]

No, wrong.
I would hate to see what Thomas or Seau would do to Matt Leinart or Adrian Peterson, for now.
Can you imagine how easily these guys would read an offensive scheme that is for the most part, remedial to them,?It would be ugly.

Example
Steve Spurrier, Butch Davis,Dennis Erickson etc. their shit dont work in the NFL.

[Themosticles]

that include the 0-14 tampa bay bucs from back in the day?

sorry taxx... the top 3 teams could beat the 9ers. At least the Fins have defense.

When Aj Feely looks like john Elway not including his half a hip, dislocated finger, and overall looking like he was gonna die on the field, then you cant make that comparison.

Name one 9er that was as good as anyone on the top 3 college teams (playing atm)... right now i can't think of anyone playing as of now. Peterson is better and Newberry but they are both hurt.

None of the 9ers would start on the top 3 in the nation. Minus winborn MAYBE.

They would lose to USC OU or Auburn

The 49ers may suck compared to other NFL teams but professional athletes are pro's for a reason. College teams do not have the overall depth, speed of play, and a myriad of other important aspects that pro teams and players possess. There is a reason that everyone who plays college sports doesn't go pro. Add to that, on college teams you have 18 year old kids who are still developing and growing. All three of those college teams you listed would not gain more then 150 yards from scrimmage during the game.

I played college sports and my junior year we finished second in the nation. During our preseason that year we played a pro team and the final score was 5-0. We played them again in the spring, against their reserves no less, and lost 3-1. There is no comparing pro and college sports, sorry.

[Phlegm]

well, the niners have 29 million in dead cap money so they couldnt do much this year. I think they also have a large chunk in dead money next year also.

[Tacks]

If you think any college team could touch a pro team you're crazy. I would bet my entire life's savings on ANY pro team playing ANY college team in football.

[Malluas]

its the same as college vs high school

you would say a high school team couldn't beat a college team period... well its happened where i live. in rugby, Bbal, football and soccer

Carnhus, reading formations and such doesn't mean they can stop them. Peterson would run thru Seau, thomas probably not. But i am tallkin about the 9ers, Dolphins have a good D

[Minrott]

No it's not the same as college vs highschool.

In college vs highschool, you have college teams that play at a highschool level. On a #1 in the country highschool team, you have a few players that are going to play at Div 1 colleges, some at D2, maybe a couple D3, and the rest won't play in college. You bring a D4 college to play that team, and the highschoolers could win.

Take the best college team in the country, and put them against pros? That's completely different. Because you'll be lucky if 2-3 of those college guys make it in the pros for one. 2, because they're PROFESSIONALS. They do this shit year round. They don't have school work. They don't have the million other things going on in their lives that college players do. Football is what they do.

The '04 Niners would stomp a mud puddle in any college teams ass. That's fact.

[Malluas]

Divison I A football team got crushed by a Division II (2nd tier division in CA) high school team

[Tacks]

Did you not read anything he just wrote Malluas?

[Malluas]

yea and your comment makes no sense cause i wasn't sayin anything other than a Division I-A team that had 2 NFL players (went to the NFL) got crushed by a local team who had NO division I players (that went to a division 1 college)

i would so agree with your guys points 5-10 years ago. Now not as much. There are alot of players around that don't belong in the pros at all. And alot are on the 9ers

[Themosticles]

Honest question. Have you ever played sports at a high level, Mallus? I'm not being a dick so don't get offended or pissed off, I'm just honestly curious.

[Mop]

every time I have heard a player interviewed about what is harder going HS to college or college to pro it is always the latter because of the speed it is played at.

[Malluas]

waterpolo with a nationally ranked High School team.. if thats high enough (invited to a national camp for junior olympics same year my shoulder was ripped from the socket )

i have had a broken neck, dislocated shoulder, blownout ankle, coudln't have played college sports

and mop i never hear any interview about hs to college cause no one cares about going to college compared to NFL.


I know some of the NFL players (Ferric Collins (Patriots..retired), JT. O'Sullivan (i think with the Saints still Ken O'Brien of course you all should know with the Jets) that went to my school and i have talked with them about it.. its about the same as in from high school to college... having to play against guys from Texas and Florida which is top competition. And with basketball taller stronger guys from other states with top ranked teams. Hence Demarcus nelson not starting for Duke cause he isn't ready just yet for the big time with that competition they play.

Of course college to pros is a big jump same with a small high school to say Florida or Florida State, miami, OU, USC. very few guys get alot of playing time as a freshman cause they don't have the exp (as in they aren't used to the speed or formations etc)

Not saying if USC played 9ers only one time the 9ers woudln't win, USC if they played 10 times could probably win 2 times.

[Malluas]

oh forgot making it in the top 5 in butterfly and in relays in swimming (Junior Nationals) for 3 years (until my shoulder injury)

[Harrison]

I wanted to play college football until I realized the only reason I was "good" was because everyone around here sucks.

[Malluas]

lol thats how it was until recently around here.. once in a while you would get a guy going to a big name school... now last few years like 30 guys have gone to schools like Florida State, Northwestern (not huge but still top half of DI), Tenn, USC, Cal, Miami etc.

A few guys i knew back when i was in high school, thought they would get to big time DI but they were only good in the area which wasn't that great for talen.

And Ontarrio smith, donte stallworth, JT O'Sullivan, soon to be Jared Siegel (kicker for Oregon), keith Lewis, all in the NFL now or will be... when i think there were maybe 2 guys from the area in the NFL.

[Themosticles]

Great, so you obviously have a good working knowledge about what it takes, both skill wise and commitment wise to be good enough at a sport to progress to the next level.

Think about your waterpolo teams. How many of your teamates could have played D-1 waterpolo? Lets say since you team was really good that that number is around 5. (I confess, I don't now anything about waterpolo) Now of those 5 who attend and play D-1, how many of them will develop enough to go pro? (Is there a pro waterpolo league?) My guess is 1, MAYBE 2. That means 1 or 2 players from each D-1 school(and this is overly generous) is good enough to play professionally. Now, lets say there are 100 D-1 schools. That means each year about 100-200 players are good enough to play pro(again, overly generous), but now those players are competeing with the best of the best, and there are only so many roster spots....see where this is going?

If USC and SF played 10 times SF would win 10 times hands down.

[Malluas]

i am not sure if there is a pro league, i think there isn't but the US team plays alot which of course screws up the college to pro guys since only like what 16 ish get onto a team like that, like basketball for the US.

the all but 2 of us played D I. I was too injured to even throw anymore and another guy went and played Basketball in college some small D 2 team

san fran is like a college team now thats my point. alot of these guys wouldn't be in the NFL if the 9ers werent injured or decided to spend real money. ONly a few as i said are decent NFL players. As USC has a few decent NFL calibur players.

i kno what you guys are saying... but have you looked at the 9ers Roster at all? most of those guys are midlevel college guys that are only playing cause all the 9ers real players are hurt. If the 9ers were healthy right now... and were 1-10 they would beat the hell outta USC, OU, Aurburn 10 outta 10. But as they are now, not sure they would win 10 outta 10 8 outta 10 yea probbaly 9 outta 10. Being as the top 3 college teams have DL that could easily use the 9ers O line, which makes rattay useless.

we will never kno tho since they won't play.

Its an arugement like NBA of the Past vs NBA of now. The only guys that would be the same would be MJ and probably Jabbar. Bird would have a hard ass time keeping up with the young SFs and SGs. Maybe Magic also.

same with the NFL.. Eventho jim Brown was a batteringram... i doubt he would survive long with guys like Ray Lewis blowing him up. Montana and Elway would be the only guys that could still play with the guys now. Dan Marino also. If Jerry Rice came in the league now i am not sure how healthy he would stay with all the guys taking everyone elses head off in the Secondary.

[Phlegm]

For the love of god people, lets get back to the thread. The 49ers suck and they suck bad. They should use the first pick to draft a quarterback. Draft walter from arizona state if one of these three doesnt come out; Rogers(cal) Leinart(usc) or smith(utah).