Guild/Player mentality VS EQ
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Taxx wrote:Rofl I'd love to duel a melee hunter, that would be a total slaughter. The only time they get a chance on me is if vanish is down and i'm stupid enough to run into a frost trap while they kite me.
A combination of Deflection, Deterence, Lightning Reflexes, Improved Wing Clip, and Counterattack would be incredibly annoying in PvP. I'm not sure it would be enough to take a dedicated melee class like a rogue or a warrior, but it could be effective against most other classes.
Taxx wrote:All that doesn't mean jack when you're not a plate class, you'll never come out of stun before you're dead.
Taxx is right
A hunter should never be able to beat a rogue toe to toe
just won't happen
I've killed rogues with melee before
but, I also could have probably killed those same rogues with just my pet, they were that bad
a well played rogue vs a well played hunter
If the hunter can stay at range, he'll win np
If the rogue can get into melee range, he'll win np
simple as that
at one point i had 26 pts survival 25 marks, and it was complete shit (and no i wasn't basing my combat on melee either, i just wanted counterattack which isn't worth the points)
only things worth getting in survival tree is improved wing clip and entrapment (this is just if you're on a pvp server, if i was on a pve server i would do it differently)
and beyond that, i haven't lost a duel to a rogue in 3 levels, they're the easiest class to a duel against for me
only things worth getting in survival tree is improved wing clip and entrapment (this is just if you're on a pvp server, if i was on a pve server i would do it differently)
and beyond that, i haven't lost a duel to a rogue in 3 levels, they're the easiest class to a duel against for me
Last edited by Tae-Bo on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Chances are very good that you've never touched Linux a day in your pathetic life.
here i'll tell you how:
pet on passive, accept duel, place freezing trap at my feet, flare over the trap
duel starts, rogue stealths, i stand still and do nothing except recast flare if needed
rogue hits trap, i run and mark whilst running, aimed shit, fd quickly and place another freezing trap at feet, shoot rogue without using DoT's while he's running to me, he hits trap again, i run to max range again, once you run far enough you'll exit combat, place freezing trap, aimed shot, so on and so forth
i don't even get to use my pet the whole time and i usually come out with only being hit once or twice
and yeah i admit it's cheap, but i hate dueling so i exploit the situation to the fullest
pet on passive, accept duel, place freezing trap at my feet, flare over the trap
duel starts, rogue stealths, i stand still and do nothing except recast flare if needed
rogue hits trap, i run and mark whilst running, aimed shit, fd quickly and place another freezing trap at feet, shoot rogue without using DoT's while he's running to me, he hits trap again, i run to max range again, once you run far enough you'll exit combat, place freezing trap, aimed shot, so on and so forth
i don't even get to use my pet the whole time and i usually come out with only being hit once or twice
and yeah i admit it's cheap, but i hate dueling so i exploit the situation to the fullest
Chances are very good that you've never touched Linux a day in your pathetic life.
Uh, you've been fighting some REALLY shitty rogues then. First of all you can cast detect traps while in stealth (i never let it down during pvp). Secondly if the rogue lets you get off flair, he's a fucking noob. Distract the noob hunter, cheapshot and it's over. Even if your trap is at your feet you can be out of range and still able to CS him. Even in a worse case scenario I somehow bone-headedly hit the trap, vanish and do it all over again.
15 second cool down 30 second duration
flare radius is large enough so that a rogue can't disarm a trap while it's up
and i know you can stealth before a duel begins
i've dueled "the best rogues on the server" over and over and over, they all want to try and see if they can counter what i'm doing and so far none have been able to, and just looking at rogue abilities, i don't see how they can either
it's not really a matter of a rogue's lack of skill, it's just how certain hunter abilities are played out that allow them do it
i can do it to warriors too, it just takes longer, and against casters it's impossible to use against
flare radius is large enough so that a rogue can't disarm a trap while it's up
and i know you can stealth before a duel begins
i've dueled "the best rogues on the server" over and over and over, they all want to try and see if they can counter what i'm doing and so far none have been able to, and just looking at rogue abilities, i don't see how they can either
it's not really a matter of a rogue's lack of skill, it's just how certain hunter abilities are played out that allow them do it
i can do it to warriors too, it just takes longer, and against casters it's impossible to use against
Chances are very good that you've never touched Linux a day in your pathetic life.