Remember Leash Girl?

[The Kizzy]

SAN ANTONIO - Pfc. Lynndie England will plead guilty to abusing Iraqi detainees in Abu Ghraib prison, her lawyer said late Friday, months after photos of her sexually humiliating inmates made her the face of a scandal that damaged the credibility of the U.S. military.

England will plead guilty in a military court Monday to seven of the nine counts against her: two counts of conspiracy, four counts of maltreating prisoners and one count of dereliction of duty, said Rick Hernandez, her civilian lawyer.

England, a 22-year-old Army reservist who was a clerk at the Baghdad-area prison, was scheduled to go to trial Tuesday at Fort Hood.

Hernandez said the plea deal was reached Friday afternoon during a meeting with military prosecutors at Fort Hood.

"This is in her best interests," he said.

One count of committing indecent acts and one count of failure to obey a lawful order will be dismissed, Hernandez said. That will drop the maximum sentence she faces from 16 1/2 years to 11 years, he said.

England, from Fort Ashby, West Virginia, was one of seven members of the Maryland-based 372nd Military Police Company charged with humiliating and assaulting prisoners at the prison near Baghdad. She became a focal point of the scandal about a year ago after photos of her surfaced, include one that showed her smiling and posing with nude prisoners stacked in a pyramid.

In one notorious photo from the prison, England is shown holding a hooded, naked Iraqi prisoner on a leash. In another she is smiling and pointing at a naked detainee's genitals while a cigarette dangles from the corner of her mouth.

Her lawyers had argued England and others in her unit were acting on orders from military intelligence to "soften up" prisoners for interrogations.

But Army investigators testified during hearings last summer that England said the reservists took the photos while "they were joking around, having some fun."

Five other members of the 372nd have entered guilty pleas, with sentences ranging from no time to 8 1/2 years.

The only soldier in the case to stand trial, alleged ringleader Spc. Charles Graner Jr., was convicted on all charges earlier this year and sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Graner and England were once lovers, and authorities believe he is the father of England's baby.

One other member of the 372nd is awaiting trial: Spc. Sabrina Harman, a guard who faces up to 6 1/2 years if convicted on charges of conspiracy, maltreating detainees and dereliction of duty.

England had initially been charged with 19 counts of abuse and indecent acts that carried a combined maximum sentence of 38 years in prison. Prosecutors filed a new, reduced set of charges in February.

[Narrock]

6 1/2 years for protecting her country. That's just great.

[Diabolik]

Yeah.. I sleep safer today because prisoners at Abu Ghraib were dragged around on leashes, sodomized with sticks, made to walk around naked while covered in their own excrement, made to stick their fingers up into their rectums and then into their mouthes, and threatened with bodily harm unless they masturbated. That's only what they were caught doing.

You truly are a piece of work, Mindia. I'm still not convinced that you aren't one of the other NT regulars playing a sick joke on everyone.

[Ciladan]

Yeah.. I sleep safer today because prisoners at Abu Ghraib were dragged around on leases, sodomized with sticks, made to walk around naked while covered in their own excrement, made to stick their fingers up into their rectums and then into their mouthes, and threatened with bodily harm unless they masturbated. That's only what they were caught doing.

You truly are a piece of work, Mindia. I'm still not convinced that you aren't one of the other NT regulars playing a sick joke on everyone.

Man I would crap my pants if he turned around one day and said "GOTCHYA"

[Narrock]

Yeah.. I sleep safer today because prisoners at Abu Ghraib were dragged around on leashes, sodomized with sticks, made to walk around naked while covered in their own excrement, made to stick their fingers up into their rectums and then into their mouthes, and threatened with bodily harm unless they masturbated. That's only what they were caught doing.

You truly are a piece of work, Mindia. I'm still not convinced that you aren't one of the other NT regulars playing a sick joke on everyone.

Diabolik said

[Narrock]

6 1/2 years for protecting her country. That's just great.

[Arlos]

Oh yes, so Christian to support torturing people, many of whom who had comitted no crime and were later released, un-charged. You are such a credit to your religion. Unfortunately, most of your ilk are just like you, which is why Christianity has such a bad image with other religions.

-Arlos

[Narrock]

Oh yes, so Christian to support torturing people, many of whom who had comitted no crime and were later released, un-charged. You are such a credit to your religion. Unfortunately, most of your ilk are just like you, which is why Christianity has such a bad image with other religions.

-Arlos

blah blah blah

[Narrock]

Hey Arlos, why don't you start another thread about how you're getting outsourced by Indians and not making enough money .

[Harrison]

[Scoota McGee]

6 1/2 years for protecting her country. That's just great.

I take it you've never served. If you had you would have some concept of what it is to protect your country. Anyone who had served honorably in the military would be repulsed and embarrassed by the behavior the Abu Ghraib guards exhibited. I know I am.

[Ginzburgh]

lol I don't see what everyone is getting into a fuss about. Mindia is not a religious man in the least. That should have been evident by now. He's like that 15 year old girl who says, "I LOVE THE YANKEE'S" but couldn't name 5 people on the team.

[Lyion]

Anyone who has ever served in the military knows that accountability goes from the top down. My problem with Abu Ghraib is accountability is going from the bottom up.

None of the people convicted were Officers or NCOs. Why not? What about the Intel people who were in charge of these people?

Make no mistake, The real culprits here got away, and the E-nothings got creamed. It is a travesty.

These people needed to be punished, but they should have gotten smaller charges, with the larger penalties going to those in charge who ran this circus

[Harrison]

There will be no common sense in these forums!

You have been banished to rants and flames oh heathen!

[araby]

I thought you were talking about "Leash Girl" who used to post, or Betty or whatever her name was/is.

[Diabolik]

Diabolik said

That brings up a question... why do you think that people running wild and acting like perverted S&M dungeon masters is acting in the defense of our country? Iraq war, pacifism aside... when is this behavior patriotic or even acceptable?

[Eziekial]

Anyone who has ever served in the military knows that accountability goes from the top down. My problem with Abu Ghraib is accountability is going from the bottom up.

None of the people convicted were Officers or NCOs. Why not? What about the Intel people who were in charge of these people?

Make no mistake, The real culprits here got away, and the E-nothings got creamed. It is a travesty.

These people needed to be punished, but they should have gotten smaller charges, with the larger penalties going to those in charge who ran this circus

Amen. What's the name of that woman General who went on a talk show circuit and claimed "I didn't know anything". She should be first on the list to be prosecuted.

[The Kizzy]

Mindia have you ever heard of the Geneva Convention?

[Narrock]

When you said Leash Girl the first person I thought of was Bettibue!

[Narrock]

6 1/2 years for protecting her country. That's just great.

I take it you've never served. If you had you would have some concept of what it is to protect your country. Anyone who had served honorably in the military would be repulsed and embarrassed by the behavior the Abu Ghraib guards exhibited. I know I am.

Yes, I have served... I was in the Air Force. You obviously have no idea what it's like being in a true combat zone. I haven't been in a combat zone either, but I know a lot about it from my brother-in-law and a couple friends who were in those situations, and we have discussed it in depth.

The stress levels are mounting, people are on edge... That place could have been stormed by Al Qeida at any moment. Our soldiers were scared. Some people, when faced with this kind of fright and nervousness, will act up to overcome their fears and inhibitions. I read a book about Vietnam where a soldier was going around shooting the Vietnamese' beasts-of-burden. Just killing the oxen or whatever they were for fun and self-gratification. Point is... people do stupid things in war time. But to give her 6 1/2 years is ludicrous. I honestly don't know what a proper punishment for her would be. It just seems to me that embarrassing some prisoners of war is deserving of something much lighter than 6 1/2 years in prison.

[Martrae]

Mindia, do you even know where Scoota has been the last year?

BTW, are you back yet, Scoota?

[Narrock]

Mindia have you ever heard of the Geneva Convention?

Yes. Why do you ask?

[Narrock]

lol I don't see what everyone is getting into a fuss about. Mindia is not a religious man in the least. That should have been evident by now. He's like that 15 year old girl who says, "I LOVE THE YANKEE'S" but couldn't name 5 people on the team.

Yeah, I'm not a religous man at all... I only go to church and Bible study and tithe every week for the fun of it.

[Narrock]

Mindia, do you even know where Scoota has been the last year?

BTW, are you back yet, Scoota?

Yes, he has been in Dubai. Not exactly a war zone, if you know anything about Dubai, U.A.E.

Anyway, you've completely missed my point Martrae if that's all you can come up with after reading my post.

[Martrae]

You've missed my point...he's a hell of a lot closer to a war zone than you ever were. I'd say he's got the upper hand in personal knowledge.