Ugh

[brinstar]

I keep going with it

~snip~

Then I get threatened with being banned.

no fuckin shit

THERE JUST MIGHT BE A CORRELATION HERE

[Mop]

committees of state lawmakers rejected a constitutional amendment that would ... strip away a long list of rights granted to domestic partners in recent years.

Oh the horrors! They would vote down something that would completely remove all domestic partner benefits! You realize that that's a completely seperate issue from marriage, right? Or are you against domestic partner laws, too?

BTW, I fully expect to see legalized gay marriage in CA soon, which will be a good thing for the state, even if the only result is to get bigots like Mindia to move out.

-Arlos

Arlos, I really need to speak openly about you. You are a moron. I don't care what you claim your IQ to be, or how many IT classes you've taken. You have displayed over and over again your lack of ability to comprehend what people say, what they mean, and what direction they are going. It's pretty basic stuff. You really aren't that intelligent. I have stated numerous times that I am all for domestic partnership benefits for homosexual couples, but that I do not support gay marriage. How many more times will I have to utter those words before they sink into your amoeba-sized "brain?" You can label me a bigot, or whatever snyde comment makes you feel better about calling people who don't belong to the same school of thought as you. I think you're a closeted homosexual, and you only have one emotion to display when confronting opposing viewpoints to your own, and to your lifestyle... rage. You need to grow up already. I'm guessing you're in your mid-to-late twenties, and you still don't understand life. You need to open up a can of reality and take a big swig. There's lots of folks in America that don't agree to homosexual marriage. I'm a California Native. Born and raised here. Why don't YOU and your ilk get the hell out. Go move to Oregon or some other assbackwards state.

KIZZY -

The quoted is the first argumentive post against mindia, in which a question is asked directly to him to further the discussion - in which Mindia chooses to post an attack against him.


Here is my question, though not 100% on topic has some validity to the subject which again - awnsered in true mindia fashion.

Mindia what are your thoughts on the recent study stating that gay mens brain functions are different than strait mens?

Immaterial.

again:

it draws attention away from the horrible condition our economy is in, the war in the middle east that is greatly profiting the oil companies and their EX VICE PRESIDENT WHO NOW IS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FUCKING STATES, and the fact that we elected a man TWICE to the highest office in our country that cant even say the word nuclear (I think that if you can't pronounce it you shouldnt have any control over it) , and the fact that your personal rights have been almost completely eradicated under the patriot act, and the horribly wasteful institution that is homeland security and a host of other things that are being done right under your nose while you are worried about whether one buttfucker should be allowed to marry another buttfucker.

Gay marrige is not an issue, it is a diversion!

heres an idea - move to north carolina, join the rest of your klan buddies and live happily ever after

California belongs to the people, not a handful of ignorant activist politicians.

So did you have the same feelings when Clinton was impeached even though the majority of the people in this country didn't think he should? Americal belongs to the people not the politicians.

Where are you getting your info from? It was my understanding that most Americans were pissed off at Clinton for not only doing what he did in the Oval office with Monica Lewinsky, but lying about it under oath, and so most people did in fact want Clinton impeached.

Be warned that the formatting here was in html, so its going to suck. All values are in %. WARNING changes have been made for the purpose of formatting, no values were changed. Moved dates around to match up with values since they dont line up well.

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. December 19-20, 1998.

"As you may know, the House of Representatives has voted to impeach Bill Clinton. Next the Senate will hold a trial to decide whether or not Clinton should be removed from office. First, do you approve or disapprove of the House vote to impeach Clinton?"
Approve 40
Disapprove 59
No opinion 1

ABC News Poll. December 16, 1998.

"As you may know, the House of Representatives is expected to vote soon on whether or not to impeach Bill Clinton. If the House impeaches him, the Senate will hold a trial to decide whether or not Clinton should be removed from office. Based on what you know, do you think the House should or should not impeach Clinton?"
Should 40
Should not 58
No opinion 2

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. December 12-13, 1998.
ABC News Poll. December 11, 1998.

"As you may know, the House Judiciary Committee in Congress has voted to recommend that the full House impeach Clinton. Do you support or oppose the committee's vote to recommend impeachment?"
Dates 12/12-13/98 - 12/11/98
Support 41 43
Oppose 58 55
No opinion 1 2

ABC News and The Washington Post
"Based on what you know, do you think Congress should or should not impeach Clinton and remove him from office?"
Dates 12/2-6 - 11/20-22 - 10/29 -11/1- 10/22-25 - 10/15-18 - 10/8-10
Should 33 30 27 29 29 31
Should not 64 66 71 66 68 64
No opinion 3 4 2 5 3 4

CBS News/New York Times Poll. December 19-20, 1998. N=1,341 adults nationwide who had also been polled December 13-15 & 17..

"Given what you know right now, do you think it would be better for the country if Bill Clinton resigned from office, or do you think it would be better for the country if Bill Clinton finished his term as president?"
Resigned 31
Finished term 66
Don't know/No answer 3

CBS News Poll. December 18, 1998.
"The House is likely to vote on the four articles of impeachment tomorrow. When the full U.S. House of Representatives votes on whether or not to impeach President Clinton, do you want your representative to vote for or against impeachment?"
For 38
Against 58
Don't know/No answer 4

BS News/New York Times Poll. December 13-15, 1998.
"This week, the full U.S. House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on whether or not to impeach President Clinton. When the full House votes, do you want your representative to vote for or against impeachment?"
For 33
Against 62
Don't know/No answer 5

CNN/Time Poll conducted by Yankelovich Partners. December 17-18, 1998.
"As you probably know, the House of Representatives is considering a resolution to impeach President Clinton. If the majority of the House votes for impeachment, the Senate would have to decide whether Clinton is guilty and should be removed from office. Based on what you know, do you think the House should vote for or against the impeachment of Bill Clinton?"
For impeachment 37
Against impeachment 61
Not sure 2

Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll
"Now thinking about the action taken by the House of Representatives this weekend, do you approve or disapprove of the House decision to vote in favor of impeaching Clinton and sending the case to the Senate for trial?"
Date - Approve - Disapprove - NoOpinion
12/19-20/98 - 35 - 63 - 2

Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll
"What would you want your member of the House of Representatives to do: vote in favor of impeaching Clinton and sending the case to the Senate for trial, OR, vote against impeachment of Clinton?"
Date - Vote In Favor - Vote Against - No Opinion
12/15-16/98 - 36 - 62 - 2
12/12-13/98 - 38 - 59 - 3
12/4-6/98 - 32 - 66 - 2
11/20-22/98 - 33 - 64 - 3
11/13-15/98 - 31 - 66 - 3
10/23-25/98 - 33 - 61 - 6
10/9-12/98 - 34 - 62 - 4

Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll
"As you may know, the House Judiciary Committee is holding hearings on whether to recommend impeachment of Bill Clinton to the full House of Representatives. In your view, should the House Judiciary Committee vote for or against impeachment?"
Date - 12/11/98 - 12/10/98 - 12/9/98 - 12/8/98
For 37 - 34 - 34 - 34
Against 58 - 63 - 61 - 59
No opinion 5 - 3 - 5 - 7

Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll
"Based on what you know at this point, do you think that Bill Clinton should or should not be impeached and removed from office?"
Date - Should Be - Should Not Be - No Opinion
10/6-7/98 - 32 - 65 - 3
9/23-24/98 - 29 - 68 - 3
9/21/98 - 32 - 66 - 2
9/20/98 - 35 - 60 - 5
9/13/98 - 31 - 66 - 3
9/11-12/98 - 30 - 64 - 6
9/10/98 - 31 - 63 - 6
8/21-23/98 - 29 - 67 - 4
8/18/98 - 26 - 70 - 4
8/17/98 - 25 - 69 - 6
8/10-12/98 - 20 - 76 - 4
8/7-8/98 - 23 - 75 - 2
6/5-7/98 - 19 - 77 - 4

Should I continue with more?

I don't believe those polls.

again mindia proved wrong but instead of taking the high road he makes a snide comment.

Scares me how many people actually think gore said "I invented the internet"

He did say that.

No, he didn't. He saw the potential of the Arpanet (emergency military computer network) and fought for the funding that would turn it into the Internet we know and love today.

And the direct quote was "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." Which he did, by championing and funding it, not by writing the fucking PASCAL code that allows packet switching.

this is just getting repetative:

What the hell are you idiots talking about? What Gore said could be construed as saying that he invented the internet. I wasn't wrong about a damn thing here.

again; Mindia turns it into an attack instead of a discussion by calling arlos gay.

Calling you on hypocracy for first ranting about a vote by lawmakers that does not legalize gay marriage, but DID prevent all domestic partner rights from being stripped, then Second, turning around and calling me an idiot for asking if you were against domestic partner rights, saying you were all for them at the same time is provoking you?

So which is it? If you're all for domestic partner rights, you should be cheering that vote, not slamming it, since it does nothing whatsoever to legalize gay marriage, but does preserve domestic partner laws. In which case, care to explain why you were so outraged by it that you felt compelled to make a whole thread insulting said lawmakers? If you still insist on lambasting it, obviously you must not actually be for domestic partner laws, and you need to come out and admit it.

-Arlos

PS. What odds do others give on which Mindia Standard Option he picks with THIS post? My last one, he took option B, ignoring it. This time, I'm betting option A, the personal insult! 50 of my goats to the first person to guess correctly, ahead of time!

Since memory retention and reading comprehension aren't your greatest strengths, I'll just say it this final time:

I am against gay marriage, but I am all for civil unions where each partner in the domestic partnership would receive the same kinds of rights and benefits as those of hetero partnerships and marriages.

I'm not bashing you because you're gay, Arlos. I'm giving you a hard time because you devote an unprecedented amount of time and energy into protecting the rights of your ilk.

I hope this has finally sunk into your brain.

This is not a personal attack against you.

So Kizzy the above is why Mindia gets shit when he starts shit because he does it blatenly instead of having a discussion in a high road manner - he chooses to call people gay or say that peoples sources are not valid because he doesnt believe them

If he choose to actually have a discussion with out calling people of different views gay, stupid or shit, then maybe people might actually not dislike him.


As for Mindia:

take your own advice....this is directed at arlos but maybe you should think about applying this:

Here's some advice for you Arlos. Stop whining. You sound like a little bitch and it's not getting you anywhere. I contribute a hell of a lot more than you do, and always have since about late 1999 to early 2000. Every once in a while I see you post some decent stuff, but then you revert back to your same old Arlos-esque tactics as soon as anybody disagrees with you.

Seems to me like you can dish it out but you can't take it. My recommendation to you is to stay out yourself, or just IGNORE posts you don't like. Take a breather, go watch some more cartoons or read more of your comic books, but get the hell away from the NT when you're ready to throw a tizzy fit. An anger management class might suit you well too.

Can you even go a week with out posting the shit icon, calling a ;liberal gay, or making any sort of insult towards people with differeing view points. I really doubt you could. (excluding the weeks you get banned)

[Narrock]

Can you even go a week with out posting the shit icon, calling a ;liberal gay, or making any sort of insult towards people with differeing view points. I really doubt you could. (excluding the weeks you get banned)

Well, let's face it Mop... some posts just earn the poop icon, plain and simply put.

[Mop]

regaurdless of that, could you do it?

[Narrock]

Sure I could.