Man Charged With Stealing Wi-Fi Signal

Real Life Events.

Go off topic and I will break you!

Moderator: Dictators in Training

Postby Lueyen » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:35 am

Tuggan wrote:how does someone just happen to unintentionally stumble onto someones home based wireless connection? i was kinda under the impression people had to drive around looking for a strong enough signal to tap into.


If my prefered wireless network is unavailable (the case when I'm traveling) my computer is set to connect to any available network, presumably the one with the strongest signal. This is usually the case in motels ect where they offer wireless, and makes connections easy as there is very little if anything to configure.

Now if my neighbor also uses wireless and I boot up my laptop outside on my deck, and the signal from thier router is stronger then the signal from mine it would connect to his network instead of mine automatically. It gives a message that it's connected, and like many common messages you get used to seeing you may not actually read it and just click by it. This has been the case for me, not with a neighbors network, but with that of a business network in the area.

And yes Mappatazee I think that is a better comparison, with the exception that when viewing someone elses TV you wouldn't be degrading thier services performance which you are at least to an extent with networks because even just browsing you are using some bandwidth, even if small and probably unoticable.
Raymond S. Kraft wrote:The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.

Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.
User avatar
Lueyen
Dictator in Training
Dictator in Training
 
Posts: 1793
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:57 pm

Postby xaoshaen » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:51 am

Ciladan wrote:
xaoshaen wrote:
Tossica wrote:
10sun wrote:The fellow never set foot upon the accusor's property.


Not physically, no.


There's really no way to set foot on someone's property save for physically.


semantics


My point exactly.
xaoshaen
NT Veteran
NT Veteran
 
Posts: 1378
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:00 am

Postby xaoshaen » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:52 am

lyion wrote:
xaoshaen wrote:
Tossica wrote:
10sun wrote:The fellow never set foot upon the accusor's property.


Not physically, no.


There's really no way to set foot on someone's property save for physically.


If someone stole your identity, would that be theft, since there is no actual taking? if someone connected to your computer and downloaded your files without your permission, would that not be trespassing?


Not analagous situations.
xaoshaen
NT Veteran
NT Veteran
 
Posts: 1378
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:00 am

Postby Lyion » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:29 am

Hacking into someones PC is as much trespassing as walking through their front door.

Completely equivalent comparisons.
What saves a man is to take a step. Then another step.
C. S. Lewis
User avatar
Lyion
Admin Abuse Squad
Admin Abuse Squad
 
Posts: 14376
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:42 pm
Location: Ohio

Postby Tikker » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:33 am

Someone earlier made the comment that it was similar to standing on the sidewalk and watching tv thru the window


this would be true if:

you also had a remote, and could change channels
you also could order PPV pr0n




The long and short of it is that if i'm not offering free wifi, and you're leeching off of me willfully, you're stealing
Tikker
NT Legend
NT Legend
 
Posts: 14294
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:22 pm

Postby xaoshaen » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:37 am

lyion wrote:Hacking into someones PC is as much trespassing as walking through their front door.

Completely equivalent comparisons.


No. Entirely different charges and penalties. It's more akin to theft than trespassing.
xaoshaen
NT Veteran
NT Veteran
 
Posts: 1378
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:00 am

Postby Gidan » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:49 am

xaoshaen wrote:
lyion wrote:Hacking into someones PC is as much trespassing as walking through their front door.

Completely equivalent comparisons.


No. Entirely different charges and penalties. It's more akin to theft than trespassing.


How is hacking into somones PC theft. If you dont take anything, what exactly are you stealing? How is it different then walking into somone elses home?
For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.
User avatar
Gidan
Admin Abuse Squad
Admin Abuse Squad
 
Posts: 2892
Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:01 am

Postby xaoshaen » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:51 am

Gidan wrote:
xaoshaen wrote:
lyion wrote:Hacking into someones PC is as much trespassing as walking through their front door.

Completely equivalent comparisons.


No. Entirely different charges and penalties. It's more akin to theft than trespassing.


How is hacking into somones PC theft. If you dont take anything, what exactly are you stealing? How is it different then walking into somone elses home?


Read the original post.
xaoshaen
NT Veteran
NT Veteran
 
Posts: 1378
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:00 am

Postby runamonk » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:04 am

Martrae wrote:It should fall under radio rules...if it's transmitted thru the air and you have the equipment to pick it up you can do with it as you please.


That's not true, you can do the same with cell phones but it's considered illegal.
-
runamonk/Braeleen/Vaelie/Zennish
runamonk
NT Deity
NT Deity
 
Posts: 4083
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:59 am
Location: United Kingdom

Postby runamonk » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:05 am

Tuggan wrote:how does someone just happen to unintentionally stumble onto someones home based wireless connection? i was kinda under the impression people had to drive around looking for a strong enough signal to tap into.


They do have to drive around until they get a signal. There is a handy little PDA like device that will tell you if there are wifi signals in your immediate area. It's pretty cheap too.
-
runamonk/Braeleen/Vaelie/Zennish
runamonk
NT Deity
NT Deity
 
Posts: 4083
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:59 am
Location: United Kingdom

Postby kaharthemad » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:25 am

Hell at present my WIFI reaches to my neighbors house. Since he is a kid I allow him access only on the agreement he logs onto my SWG account and grinds my Master Shipwright out. I think it is a fair trade :) yes the wifi is secured he just has my passwords to it. should his grades drop the kid loses his nice wireless g bandwidth.
Image
User avatar
kaharthemad
NT Traveller
NT Traveller
 
Posts: 3768
Joined: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:47 am
Location: Somewhere South of Disorder

Postby kaharthemad » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:26 am

as for the stealing of bandwidth..I think it should be covered under FCC jurisdiction.
If your stupid enough to have a unsecured radio wave your stupid enough to get taken by it.
Image
User avatar
kaharthemad
NT Traveller
NT Traveller
 
Posts: 3768
Joined: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:47 am
Location: Somewhere South of Disorder

Postby Captain Insano » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:58 am

In my old apartment complex I used to go wardriving around with my laptop, changing people's router passwords and then encrypting their WIFI networks so only I could use them and they couldn't. Sometimes I would even haxor into their computers and delete stuff. It was fun. My dirty mexican friend taught me how to do all this evil haxor shit. Neat stuff I must say.
Tossica: No, you're gay because you suck on cocks.

Darcler:
Get rid of the pictures of the goofy looking white guy. That opens two right there.

Mazzletoffarado: That's me fucktard
Vivalicious wrote:Lots of females don't want you to put your penis in their mouths. Some prefer it in their ass.
User avatar
Captain Insano
Nappy Headed Ho
Nappy Headed Ho
 
Posts: 8368
Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:04 pm
Location: SoCal

Postby Tuggan » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:07 pm

Captain_Insano wrote:In my old apartment complex I used to go wardriving around with my laptop, changing people's router passwords and then encrypting their WIFI networks so only I could use them and they couldn't. Sometimes I would even haxor into their computers and delete stuff. It was fun. My dirty mexican friend taught me how to do all this evil haxor shit. Neat stuff I must say.



And thus the reason why it should be considered illegal.
Tuggan
NT Traveller
NT Traveller
 
Posts: 3900
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:12 am
Location: Michigan

Previous

Return to Current Affairs

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests