I will "deeply disturb" your mouth hilary if you

[Captain Insano]

don't STFU!


Shit like this is so fucking stupid...

You can watch people getting blown to pieces, raped, tortured, stabbed, murdered, burnt alive on any channel every single day of the week on TV, but because their is some nudity in a mod for GTA San Andreas the Senate is up in arms...

Why in the fuck do we even pay these morons? The stock market and economy are in the shitter, education is fucked up, we are at war, people are starving to death or homeless or jobless and the best our national leaders can do is worry about a fucking video game?

Given the opportunity I would relish the thought of taking a belt sander to Hilary's face along with most of our politicians. This nation has a million more important things to worry about than you're stupid kids being exposed to sex.

Get over it.... Little Johnny is going stab your Little Susie with his Captain America probably by the time she turns 13 anyways... NOT to mention you as parents will probably let her go to Cabo when she graduates highschool or on spring break so she can become the next big thing in Girls Gone Wild.

Protecting your kids from sex is useless. Give them condoms and let them go at it.

Oh the article I almost forgot:

Clinton seeks video game sex scene probe

Friday, July 15, 2005; Posted: 8:38 a.m. EDT (12:38 GMT)


Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton asked the Federal Trace Commission to investigate.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton pressed Thursday for a government investigation into how simulated sex cropped up in a modified version of the blockbuster criminal adventure video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas."

Clinton asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate the origins of a downloadable modification that allows simulated sex in the personal computer version of one of the most popular and controversial video games in history.

"We should all be deeply disturbed that a game which now permits the simulation of lewd sexual acts in an interactive format with highly realistic graphics has fallen into the hands of young people across the country," Clinton wrote in a letter to the head of the Federal Trade Commission.

Saying the problem of explicit video games was "spiraling out of control," Clinton also said she was introducing legislation that would crack down on the sale of violent and sex-laden games to minors.

The legislation would impose a $5,000 penalty on retailers who sell adult-rated video games to underage children.

Clinton asked the FTC to look into whether Grand Theft Auto's rating of "M" (Mature 17+) should be changed to the rare "AO" (Adult Only), which would threaten to crimp sales at large retail outlets.

The PlayStation2 version of "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" was the No. 1 game of 2004, selling just over 5 million copies, according to industry researcher NPD Funworld.

She requested the agency to study whether retailers' enforcement policies were adequate to keep adult-rated video games out of the hands of minors.

An FTC spokeswoman said the agency had received Clinton's letter and was reviewing it.

Clinton's comments were the latest in a chorus of criticism that has intensified since the revelation about sex scenes in the modified Grand Theft Auto. The game series has drawn numerous detractors because of its sexual and violent content.

Players who download a modification, known as "hot coffee," from the Internet can make a male character engage in various sex acts with a virtual "girlfriend." Sex is suggested in the official version of the game, but does not happen on screen.

The game's manufacturer, a subsidiary of Take-Two Interactive Software Inc. called Rockstar Games, has said hackers are responsible for the modification.

In a statement released Thursday, Rockstar said it supported the video game rating system and efforts to keep adult-rated games away from children.

But without referring to Clinton, the company said it was "disappointed by comments that misrepresent Grand Theft Auto, detracting from the innovative and artistic merits of the game."

"Unfortunately, the recent confusion only serves to suggest that games do not deserve the same treatment as other forms of creative expression," Rockstar said in its statement.

The Entertainment Software Rating Board last week launched a probe into whether the sexual minigame content was deliberately hidden in the game code and unlocked by the "hot coffee" modification, or if it was solely the result of the modification.

The "hot coffee" modification, which violates the game's software user agreement, is the result of hackers disassembling and then combining, recompiling and altering the game's source code, Rockstar said.

[Narrock]

Hillary is a piece of

[Jennay]

She's got sand in her vag.

[Phlegm]

Maybe she knew first hand what would happen if the kids were to get a hold of explicit video games. Her boy wonder, Bill, didnt stained the fat intern dress because of his natural sex drive; a sex drive that probably dead since he was married to her. He was bopping all the females around because he was playing video games with explicit sexual content and sent his hormones into overdrive.

[Phlegm]

GTA:SA is now rated M for mature

[Thon]

it's fucking retarded

the game was fine when it was just about dealing drugs and killing civilians, and focused on corrupt cops. but as soon as a few polygonal tits are shown the senate gets in on the action.

[The Kizzy]

Here is a novel idea. Why doesn't Hillary leave the parenting to the parents.

[Zanchief]

Liberals need to shut up with all this TV/Videogame violence. It's making us look bad.

[Diabolik]

Hillary is a piece of

I take it you're pro-pornography, then? Welcome to the club.

[xaoshaen]

GTA:SA is now rated M for mature

It was always rated M. It's currently tagged with an AO rating until Rockstar releases a version without the nudity.

[Phlegm]

Here is a novel idea. Why doesn't Hillary leave the parenting to the parents.

It take a village to raise a child.

[Martrae]

Here is a novel idea. Why doesn't Hillary leave the parenting to the parents.

When she can't trust people to plan for their own retirement, obtain their own healthcare, or take care of themselves when they can't/won't work?

Don't fool yourselves....she won't be happy until the government controls every aspect of our lives.

[Phlegm]

Liberals need to shut up with all this TV/Videogame violence. It's making us look bad.

She's setting the table for when she runs for the presidency. Trying to win some support from the conservatives.

[Captain Insano]

My main point of this this post was that politicians got a lot better things to be worrying about then some shleprock parent who can't control what video games their kid is playing.

When they solve the whole poverty, war, unemployment thing then they can worry about it.

[Zanchief]

I think Hillary should take a look at the average gamer and tell me if he is influanced by the violence or the sexual content.

Most of em are harmless geeky virgins.

[Lyion]

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/artic ... 02,00.html

Best quote about this debate

Apparently, adding a sex scene to a game where the main character is a criminal sociopath makes it inappropriate for children.

[Narrock]

Hillary is a piece of

I take it you're pro-pornography, then? Welcome to the club.

How do you ascertain that from my statement that Hillary is a piece of shit? Nice one, brainiac.

[Gidan]

Hillary is a piece of

I take it you're pro-pornography, then? Welcome to the club.

How do you ascertain that from my statement that Hillary is a piece of shit? Nice one, brainiac.

Well lets see.

When you reply to a topic about Hilary tring to remove "porn" from a video game with

Hillary is a piece of

You send that message.

[Narrock]

Hillary is a piece of

I take it you're pro-pornography, then? Welcome to the club.

How do you ascertain that from my statement that Hillary is a piece of shit? Nice one, brainiac.

Well lets see.

When you reply to a topic about Hilary tring to remove "porn" from a video game with

Hillary is a piece of

You send that message.

No I don't send that message, weirdo.

[Haylo]

BTW, the new target of this group is ... "The Sims 2". They say that because EA has the Sims being able to disrobe it needs to be changed. Even though EA provides a blur over "sensitive" parts.

How do you like your hot coffee? If you're Jack Thompson, you like it scalding game publisher's laps. The Miami attorney and antigaming activist has done his share to see that games don't fall into the wrong hands. And lately, those hands have belonged to almost everyone.

Thompson was among those who spearheaded the recent effort to slap an "Adults Only" rating on Rockstar Games' Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, and he's often been on the forefront of many other gaming issues, several of which have targeted the crime-spree-based GTA franchise. In the past, he's represented defendants who have been the victims of GTA-inspired crimes, including the triple homicide of three police officers by an 18-year-old boy in Alabama.

His beef with San Andreas? Unused code in the game that depicts sexual acts. These minigames can be unlocked by using game-cheat devices or patches available on the Internet.

Thompson is on a roll...and he's not done yet. His latest goat is a game that doesn't involve guns, carjacking, or prostitutes: He's going after Electronic Arts' The Sims 2.

In a manifesto sent today to press outlets, Thompson focuses on dismantling the Entertainment Software Ratings Board and exposing what he calls the industry's "latest dirty little secret." The secret's out now, and it involves nude sims.

In the statement, Thompson says, "Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise ... contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."

The Sims 2 is a "life simulator." In the game, players steer their digital beings around their cyberlives. Actions include everything from the spectacular (getting married, having children, receiving promotions at work) to the mundane (cooking microwaved meals, going to the bathroom, mopping the floor). Such activities, as in real life, sometimes require nudity. EA circumvents inappropriateness by "blurring" out the nether regions, almost to a comical sense.

Knowing that the game is popular among all ages, EA has even taken steps to ensure that Sims fans aren't exposed to indecent depictions. In the recent expansion pack, The Sims 2 University, gamers can send their teenage sims off to college. However, instead of packing the expansion with "keggers" and "reefer," EA chose to use juice and bubble blowers.

Thompson doesn't seem to care. He cites a cheat code that can remove the blur that covers the nether regions. "The nudity placed there by the publisher/maker, Electronic Arts, is accessed by the use of a simple code that removes what is called 'the blur' which obscures the genital areas. In other words, the game was released to the public by the manufacturer knowing that the full frontal nudity was resident on the game and would be accessed by use of a simple code widely provided on the Internet."

It's not just the adults that are liberated from their wardrobes. Sims kids can also be nudified, "much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse."

Were this to be true, Thompson would have his smoking gun, and EA would be forced to recall all copies of The Sims 2. However, it's what's under the blur that Thompson's after. And what happens when the blur is lifted? A simple mannequin-esque smooth body, according to EA.

Jeff Brown, vice president of corporate communications at EA, in response to the accusations, told GameSpot, "This is nonsense. We've reviewed 100 percent of the content. There is no content inappropriate for a teen audience. Players never see a nude sim. If someone with an extreme amount of expertise and time were to remove the pixels, they would see that the sims have no genitals. They appear like Ken and Barbie."

Thompson doesn't buy it. "The sex and the nudity are in the game. That's the point. The blur is an admission that even the 'Ken and Barbie' features should not be displayed. The blur can be disarmed. This is no different than what is in San Andreas, although worse."

[UPDATE] Thompson this afternoon updated his earlier statement, saying he is aware certain mods only remove "the blur," but adds that "Electronic Arts has done nothing about this." Thompson's new conclusion: EA is "cooperating, gleefully, with the mod community to turn Sims 2 into a porn offering."

The last time we checked, The Sims 2 was rated T for Teen by the ESRB, which means that anyone 13 years of age, with $50 to spend, can purchase the game.

[Harrison]

I fucking hate people.

[Gidan]

The next thing we will see is that she will want those Ken and Barbie dolls to have clothes perminatly attached to them so children can not take them off and see them nude. I mean they are directed at children, that would just not be acceptable for them to see.

[Darcler]

Ken has his flesh colored underwear permanantly attached. I think some Barbies out there also do.

[Martrae]

yeah, cuz that's kids wear....flesh colored underwear....

[Haylo]

I thought that these people couldn't go any further off the deep end until I noticed this little gem

It's not just the adults that are liberated from their wardrobes. Sims kids can also be nudified, "much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse."

I mean seriously wtf. Get a grip, monitor what hacks your kids are using on games that YOU buy them and move on. No pedophile is sitting around playing The Sims to get their rocks off.