Oil prices hit 65/barrel
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Oil Companies pass on all costs to the consumer and are cleaning up in the current market. Take one look at Oil company stocks and you will see they are all way up.
The Bush Admin did not plan for Iraq to be less functional after the war than before it. They predicted Iraq Oil would pay for the whole clean up so the US taxpayers wouldn't have to.
Point is if things had gone according to the plans Bush had there would be a lot more oil coming out of Iraq. So they planned to lower oil prices they just failed to get the job done.
The Bush Admin did not plan for Iraq to be less functional after the war than before it. They predicted Iraq Oil would pay for the whole clean up so the US taxpayers wouldn't have to.
Point is if things had gone according to the plans Bush had there would be a lot more oil coming out of Iraq. So they planned to lower oil prices they just failed to get the job done.
lyion wrote:When gas prices go up, the costs to the companies rise as well and often times less oil is bought and consumed due to the increased price, so the oil companies lose money to these increases. Oil prices are set by OPEC, not Exxon.
While a nice whacko left wing stretch, what you said is simply not true.
The man in the box told me that we went to war so Bush could eat oil covered babies from Iraq.
NO MORE BLOOD FOR OIL
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Alyn wrote:Oil Companies pass on all costs to the consumer and are cleaning up in the current market. Take one look at Oil company stocks and you will see they are all way up.
The Bush Admin did not plan for Iraq to be less functional after the war than before it. They predicted Iraq Oil would pay for the whole clean up so the US taxpayers wouldn't have to.
Point is if things had gone according to the plans Bush had there would be a lot more oil coming out of Iraq. So they planned to lower oil prices they just failed to get the job done.
OPEC sets the price for oil... not the oil companies, not George Bush, and not Iraq.
Really - the ignorance and conspiracy theories just need to stop... it's getting ridiculous.
Mindia wrote:I was wrong obviously.
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Zanchief
Langston wrote:Alyn wrote:Oil Companies pass on all costs to the consumer and are cleaning up in the current market. Take one look at Oil company stocks and you will see they are all way up.
The Bush Admin did not plan for Iraq to be less functional after the war than before it. They predicted Iraq Oil would pay for the whole clean up so the US taxpayers wouldn't have to.
Point is if things had gone according to the plans Bush had there would be a lot more oil coming out of Iraq. So they planned to lower oil prices they just failed to get the job done.
OPEC sets the price for oil... not the oil companies, not George Bush, and not Iraq.
Really - the ignorance and conspiracy theories just need to stop... it's getting ridiculous.
I believe it, only because it's more plausible than all other reasons. Iraq is a direct threat to the US? Please. Now who's reaching?
Zanchief wrote:Langston wrote:Alyn wrote:Oil Companies pass on all costs to the consumer and are cleaning up in the current market. Take one look at Oil company stocks and you will see they are all way up.
The Bush Admin did not plan for Iraq to be less functional after the war than before it. They predicted Iraq Oil would pay for the whole clean up so the US taxpayers wouldn't have to.
Point is if things had gone according to the plans Bush had there would be a lot more oil coming out of Iraq. So they planned to lower oil prices they just failed to get the job done.
OPEC sets the price for oil... not the oil companies, not George Bush, and not Iraq.
Really - the ignorance and conspiracy theories just need to stop... it's getting ridiculous.
I believe it, only because it's more plausible than all other reasons. Iraq is a direct threat to the US? Please. Now who's reaching?
Direct how?
Like....hiring for an assassination attempt?
http://hnn.us/articles/1000.html
Like....that?
How do you like this spoiler, motherfucker? -Lyion
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Zanchief
Harrison wrote:Zanchief wrote:Langston wrote:Alyn wrote:Oil Companies pass on all costs to the consumer and are cleaning up in the current market. Take one look at Oil company stocks and you will see they are all way up.
The Bush Admin did not plan for Iraq to be less functional after the war than before it. They predicted Iraq Oil would pay for the whole clean up so the US taxpayers wouldn't have to.
Point is if things had gone according to the plans Bush had there would be a lot more oil coming out of Iraq. So they planned to lower oil prices they just failed to get the job done.
OPEC sets the price for oil... not the oil companies, not George Bush, and not Iraq.
Really - the ignorance and conspiracy theories just need to stop... it's getting ridiculous.
I believe it, only because it's more plausible than all other reasons. Iraq is a direct threat to the US? Please. Now who's reaching?
Direct how?
Like....hiring for an assassination attempt?
http://hnn.us/articles/1000.html
Like....that?
My apples, please meet Finawin’s oranges.
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Zanchief
Harrison wrote:Yes, assassination attempts are so very indirect threats to our country.
Apples indeed...
An assassination attempt on the president in 1993 shows a threat to the US in 2005 how?
Hell Japan invaded us in 1941, can we goto war with them, they must be a threat to our country.
For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.
Langston wrote:Stability within the Middle East is a national interest to the United States. I don't think anyone ever believed that Saddam Hussein was going to load a rowboat full of his Republican Guard and invade Washington.
You guys are so acutely myoptic.
There is a huge difference between
Stability within the Middle East is a national interest to the United States.
and
Iraq posses a direct threat to the United States
For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.
xaoshaen wrote:Iraq didn't violate the terms of the cease fire established at the end of the Gulf War.
Iraq didn't open fire on American servicemembers.
Increased oil prices drive demand even higher, allowing the oil companies to "pass on all costs to the consumer" and "clean up".
There are five lights!
You conveniently left out their refusal to submit to UN inspections - which IS part of the terms of their surrender in the first Gulf War.
Stop trying to make it out that Iraq is innocent... it's foolish to even attempt to portray them as such.
Mindia wrote:I was wrong obviously.
Media Research Center wrote:In fact, adjusted for inflation -- which is the only way to accurately measure any cost trend -- to match the record price of 1980, gas would have to exceed $2.97 a gallon and a barrel of oil would need to go over $90.
Inside each person lives two wolves. One is loyal, kind, respectful, humble and open to the mystery of life. The other is greedy, jealous, hateful, afraid and blind to the wonders of life. They are in battle for your spirit. The one who wins is the one you feed.
Martrae wrote:Media Research Center wrote:In fact, adjusted for inflation -- which is the only way to accurately measure any cost trend -- to match the record price of 1980, gas would have to exceed $2.97 a gallon and a barrel of oil would need to go over $90.
How does that have anythign to do with a drasic increase in gas and oil prices over the last say 1 year?
For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.
Gidan wrote:Langston wrote:Stability within the Middle East is a national interest to the United States. I don't think anyone ever believed that Saddam Hussein was going to load a rowboat full of his Republican Guard and invade Washington.
You guys are so acutely myoptic.
There is a huge difference between
Stability within the Middle East is a national interest to the United States.
and
Iraq posses a direct threat to the United States
No, there's not. By endangering a "national interest" of the United States, you have posed a direct threat to the United States. Something doesn't get qualified as a "national interest" because it's cute and furry or tastes good with ketchup. It's a "national interest" because it's been established that, whatever it is, it's important to the well-being and stability of our country.
You are so hell-bent on villainizing the administration that you can't see the forest for all the trees. It's sad, really. Mindless hate is consumptive and you're displaying that trait right now. Open your mind to something OTHER than your hatred and maybe you'll begin to see the larger picture.
Mindia wrote:I was wrong obviously.
Nothing.
It was a comment on the 'record prices' the news media has been blasting in your ears.
It was a comment on the 'record prices' the news media has been blasting in your ears.
Inside each person lives two wolves. One is loyal, kind, respectful, humble and open to the mystery of life. The other is greedy, jealous, hateful, afraid and blind to the wonders of life. They are in battle for your spirit. The one who wins is the one you feed.
Langston wrote:xaoshaen wrote:Iraq didn't violate the terms of the cease fire established at the end of the Gulf War.
Iraq didn't open fire on American servicemembers.
Increased oil prices drive demand even higher, allowing the oil companies to "pass on all costs to the consumer" and "clean up".
There are five lights!
You conveniently left out their refusal to submit to UN inspections - which IS part of the terms of their surrender in the first Gulf War.
Stop trying to make it out that Iraq is innocent... it's foolish to even attempt to portray them as such.
You mean the inspections that found no WMD? Those 'refused' inspections?
So now that they've got control of Iraq, Bush has let the UN inspectors back right? And they're found the WMD that Iraq denied having?
--R.
Rust Martialis -- Spiritwatcher of War/Valorguard/The Nameless
"There are angels on our curtains; they keep the outside out.
And there are lions on our curtains; they lick their wounds, they lick their doubt." -- 'Curtains', Peter Gabriel
"There are angels on our curtains; they keep the outside out.
And there are lions on our curtains; they lick their wounds, they lick their doubt." -- 'Curtains', Peter Gabriel
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Zanchief
Rust wrote:Langston wrote:xaoshaen wrote:Iraq didn't violate the terms of the cease fire established at the end of the Gulf War.
Iraq didn't open fire on American servicemembers.
Increased oil prices drive demand even higher, allowing the oil companies to "pass on all costs to the consumer" and "clean up".
There are five lights!
You conveniently left out their refusal to submit to UN inspections - which IS part of the terms of their surrender in the first Gulf War.
Stop trying to make it out that Iraq is innocent... it's foolish to even attempt to portray them as such.
You mean the inspections that found no WMD? Those 'refused' inspections?
So now that they've got control of Iraq, Bush has let the UN inspectors back right? And they're found the WMD that Iraq denied having?
--R.
SHHHH thats a secret. Remember that was the reason the war started WMD's. Oh wait, what was the reason again? The white house keeps changing their minds as to why we started war.
For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.
Regardless if they were moved, never existed (...you're worthless to even begin proving wrong here if you try to say this), destroyed as agreed upon, or in the process of being made...
Refusing UN inspections was a breach of the agreement. GROUNDS FOR MILITARY ACTION.
Now if the UN wasn't a corrupt piece of shit...this would have been done much sooner and not by the U.S. solely.(solely used loosely, obviously there is the coalition)
Refusing UN inspections was a breach of the agreement. GROUNDS FOR MILITARY ACTION.
Now if the UN wasn't a corrupt piece of shit...this would have been done much sooner and not by the U.S. solely.(solely used loosely, obviously there is the coalition)
How do you like this spoiler, motherfucker? -Lyion





