Pat Robertson & Venezuelan President

[labbats]

Hmm, take one life in order to save thousands... how terrible.

Like, assassinate dubya?

You are the biggest backwards-thinking, twisted individual on the NT.

Remember how people always try to explain irony to you? ^

My quote box is bigger than your quote box!

[Harrison]

Hmm, take one life in order to save thousands... how terrible.

Like, assassinate dubya?

You are the biggest backwards-thinking, twisted individual on the NT.

Remember how people always try to explain irony to you? ^

My quote box is bigger than your quote box!

Nuh uh

[labbats]

Oh, Lumpy....

[Narrock]

Hmm, take one life in order to save thousands... how terrible.

Like, assassinate dubya?

You are the biggest backwards-thinking, twisted individual on the NT.

Remember how people always try to explain irony to you? ^

One of these days you might want to try another insult besides the "I know you are but what am I" type. Dufus.

[Tikker]

Don't really need any other material for you


You repeatedly make yourself look stupid in all the same ways, so there's no need for anything else

[Narrock]

Don't really need any other material for you


You repeatedly make yourself look stupid in all the same ways, so there's no need for anything else

Now THERE'S a prime example of irony.

[Captain Insano]

Hmm, take one life in order to save thousands... how terrible.

I hate to point this out but this comment isn't exactly in line with the religious dogma you constantly cram down our throats.

I'm not really to flame you but merely use this opportunity to point out that the bible isn't the be all end all of guidebooks on running your life or the world for that matter.

I say shoot that dirty loudmouthed spic and keep killing Venezuelan presidents until we have some bitch-boy in place that will do our bidding.

[brinstar]

pat robertson is fucked in the head and so is anyone who swallows his salty load of bigotry and goes back for another spray

[Narrock]

Pat Robertson is awesome and should be commended for his incredibly well- thought-out suggestion.

[Phlegm]

White House's response to Robertson:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Bush administration officials Tuesday disavowed Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson's call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

Venezuela's Vice President Vicente Rangel accused Robertson of inciting violence and challenged the White House to take action against Robertson.

"What is the U.S. government going to do about this criminal statement made by one of its citizens?" he asked.

Robertson told viewers of his longtime show, "The 700 Club," on Monday that Chavez was turning his oil-rich South American country into "a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent."

"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think we really ought to go ahead and do it," said Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition.

"It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war, and I don't think any oil shipments will stop. This man is a terrific danger, and this is in our sphere of influence."

Robertson -- who has a history of stirring controversy with remarks on subjects from Islam to the Supreme Court -- did not explain how Venezuela was to be used by Muslim extremists. The U.S. State Department Web site says 98 percent of the population are Roman Catholic or protestant.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Tuesday that Robertson has the right of any private citizen to say whatever he wants, but added that the televangelist's remarks "do not represent the views of the United States."

"His comments are inappropriate and, as we have said before, any allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan government are completely baseless and without fact," McCormack said.

But Venezuela's ambassador to the United States, Bernardo Alvarez, said Robertson was "no ordinary private citizen" and demanded the White House strongly condemn the remarks.

Alvarez said the Christian Coalition, which Robertson no longer leads, claims some 2 million members and helped jump-start President Bush's 2000 presidential campaign after his New Hampshire primary loss to Arizona Sen. John McCain.

"Robertson has been one of this president's staunchest allies," he said.

"The United States might not permit its citizens to use its territory and airwaves to incite terrorists abroad and the murder of a democratically elected president," Alvarez said. "Venezuela demands that the U.S. abide by international and domestic law and respect its country and our president."

Venezuela's vice president said the U.S. response "challenges the antiterrorist ideology of the American government."

"What are the American authorities going to do? The ball is in their court," Rangel said.

And former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, who ran against Robertson for the GOP presidential nomination in 1988, called the comments "stupid" and "ludicrous" and suggested Robertson apologize "very quickly."
Ties to Cuba

Chavez has built extensive ties to Cuba since he was elected in 1998 and has become a close friend of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, selling oil to the communist island at preferential rates.

This week, Chavez visited Cuba, where Castro appeared on his weekly television call-in show.

Chavez said Tuesday he was unimpressed and unconcerned by Robertson's comments.

The colorful former Venezuelan army officer, who once led a coup attempt himself, has the widespread support of his country's poor.

His opponents, largely drawn from the country's middle and upper classes, accuse him of undermining democratic institutions.

Chavez was re-elected under a new constitution in 2000. In 2004, he won a recall referendum with the support of 58 percent of voters.

But he has become an increasingly outspoken critic of the United States, which he accuses of having been behind a 2002 coup attempt that forced him from office for two days.

The Bush administration denied involvement in the coup attempt, but refused to condemn it.

Executive orders issued by presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan banned political assassinations.

Chavez has also said the United States has tried to stir opposition to his government, and he warned this month that U.S. troops would be "soundly defeated" if Washington were to invade Venezuela.

Administration officials have been sharply critical of Venezuela, the fourth-largest supplier of oil to the United States.

During her confirmation hearings, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice singled out Venezuela as a "negative force" in the region, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has suggested Venezuela has interfered with the internal affairs of other countries in the region.

Rumsfeld also dismissed Robertson's comments Tuesday, telling reporters at the Pentagon that "our department doesn't do that kind of thing."

Last week, the head of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee asked Rumsfeld to tone down his anti-Chavez rhetoric, warning that the United States needed Venezuelan help to battle the drug trade.

The concern of Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, stemmed from remarks Rumsfeld made during a trip to the region, when he said Venezuela and Cuba had been involved in Bolivian affairs "in unhelpful ways."

Venezuela has accused agents from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency of spying on the Chavez government. The Bush administration denies those allegations as well.

[Ginzburgh]

Chavez has also said the United States has tried to stir opposition to his government, and he warned this month that U.S. troops would be "soundly defeated" if Washington were to invade Venezuela.

Venezuela

[Narrock]

LOL what an asshole that guy is. That sounds like an invitation to me.

[Phlegm]

Patti Davis, daughter of the Reagans, comments on Robertson in Newsweek:

Aug. 23, 2005 - Pat Robertson considers himself a man of God, a Christian, a preacher of the Gospel. To all of these aspects of his self-delusion, the only appropriate response is: Huh? His latest suggestion, as this self-proclaimed man of God, is that Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela, should be assassinated. On his “700 Club” TV show, Robertson said Chavez could turn Venezuela into a safe haven for Communist and Muslim extremists. "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," said Robertson, who founded the Christian Coalition. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."

True men of God, of course, do not entertain such notions. They certainly don’t preach them. Men of blasphemy do.

Did Robertson lose his Bible? Or has he simply rewritten it in his own language? What happened to “Thou Shalt Not Kill?” This is not the first time Robertson has expressed a fondness for assassination. In October 2003 he suggested that nuclear weapons be dropped on the State Department.

Have any authorities checked his basement?

Here’s what I’m curious about. How does someone who has wrapped himself in the cloak of Christianity for decades come up with such ideas and express them with such ease? Does he pray first? Does he get on his knees, close his eyes and say, “God, I really want to take a few people out here. I know we’re all supposed to be your children, but there are some bad ones in the bunch and I’m figuring they probably got through by mistake. So how about culling the herd?” And then does he actually imagine God answering him and saying, “Go forth, my child with whatever weapons you can find. If you can’t scrounge up any yourself, spread the word. Preach to the masses. Someone will pick up the sword, pull the trigger or drop the bomb.”

At the risk of sounding quaint, this is just not the God I was raised with, and it certainly isn’t the God who answers me. I close my eyes sometimes and say, “God, I gave someone the finger today when I was driving. I know I shouldn’t have.” And what I hear back is something like, “I saw that. And I’ve told you before, that was a child of mine too. A tailgating one, but my child nonetheless.”

I’m actually feeling a lot better now about my temper flares in traffic. At least I’ve never considered using weaponry.

I’m sure the members of the Christian Coalition won’t take my suggestions, but they might want to consider making a rule that anyone who calls himself a Christian has to have some passing acquaintance with the teachings of Jesus. I’m no Biblical scholar but I am absolutely sure that Jesus never suggested assassinating anyone.

When I lived in New York City, I used to give money to a homeless man who stood on the same corner of Columbus Avenue every day, rain or shine. He was never pushy, he was always polite, and I just felt like giving him money. One day, I saw a man in a business suit getting right in this man’s face, waving a Bible at him and telling him he was a sinner and he had to accept Jesus and ask forgiveness for his sins. I walked up, gave the homeless man a five and said to the sidewalk preacher, “You know, Jesus would never do what you’re doing.” I walked away quickly before he could hit me with his Bible. And I walked away feeling very sorry for Jesus. People keep doing things in his name that are so un-Christianlike.

Well, if I felt sorry for Jesus then, I feel like weeping for him now. Shouldn’t people like Pat Robertson just go start their own religion and leave Jesus out of it?

I found another quote of Robertson’s from several years ago. He said that feminism encourages women “to kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.”

I would respond to this but I have to go boil some eye of newt, lizard tails and pig blood. And I am so behind on my schedule to bring down the bastions of capitalism. I got delayed because I was flirting with this cute girl down the street.

[Captain Insano]

LOL what an asshole that guy is. That sounds like an invitation to me.

I agree... we should push that guys shit in... but you didn't respond to my earlier comment. Christians shouldn't advocate killing innocent people right? Isn't that god's job?

[Narrock]

LOL what an asshole that guy is. That sounds like an invitation to me.

I agree... we should push that guys shit in... but you didn't respond to my earlier comment. Christians shouldn't advocate killing innocent people right? Isn't that god's job?

Even God has acknowledged that war is a necessity sometimes. This Venezuelan is a dangerous, worthless pile of dung who should be eliminated before he gets the chance to hurt and kill innocent people. Hence, I said that 1 life taken to save many is a good thing. That's what Pat Robertson was talking about. People are putting the spin on what he said and turning a mole-hill of a statement into a mountain. Typical leftist ignorance and ridiculousness.

[alezrik]

the very fact that the white house responded to him, says what kinda sad world we live in today. He is nothing more than a funny Carrot Top that actually believes the jokes he says.

I would rather of seen them respond to Gallagher's assassinate the mellons policy.

[brinstar]

the sixth commandment: thou shalt not kill (except when a crazy retard that is so far right he makes the GWB administration look centrist says it's okay)

[Zanchief]

Even God has acknowledged that war is a necessity sometimes.

Ok, I'll bite.

[labbats]

Actually, God does advocate war a few times in the Old Testament. However, it wasn't a blanket statement, rather a specific person/group was told to.

[Wrath Child]

Leave it to Mindia to defende this crazy fuck. Pat Robertson has been a cocksucker for some time now. This isnt the first dumbass thing hes said.

You would say that about any televangelist. Your opinion sucks.

His comment may be crude, but it's right on the money. But that still doesn't mean I would have problem if someone did take out Kim "Dear Leader" Jong il. And the sooner the better.

[Wrath Child]

How many Jews do you think would have been saved if somebody would have assassinated Hitler early on

That's a bad example considering that most of the people who could have made that decision didn't know what he was up to.

That's like saying, "if only we assasinated O.J. Simpson, Nicole Simpson's life could have been spared".

Actually, people did know what Hitler was up too. But it was just a 'bunch of Jews' he was killing, so no one really cared. It's why the Allies never bombed the railroads leading to any of the concentration camps.

For the record, an assassination attempt was made on July 20, 1944. Unfortunately, a rather sturdy table protected Hitler from the majority of the blast.

P.S. I always wondered just how bad Paris Hilton looked without her crust of daily makeup. I thank you and your avatar for putting that question to rest!

[Ginzburgh]

Actually, people did know what Hitler was up too. But it was just a 'bunch of Jews' he was killing, so no one really cared. It's why the Allies never bombed the railroads leading to any of the concentration camps.

They said there were whispers of what was going on but they didn't realize the extent of it until our soliders walked into the camps toward the end of the war in Germany.

To say that we knew and didn't bomb the railroad tracks so the Germans could continue on with their extermination sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. Back the statement up with SOME kind of evidence.

[Yamori]

Assassinating political leaders you don't like is a horrible and stupid policy - if nothing else because it basically gives countless people a very tangible reason to take shots at your own political leaders.

The only possible justification of it would be in clear cut cases of war where the political leader is the instigator.

[numatu]

The answer is not assassination.

The answer is developing an alternative fuel source that makes these faggot countries that think they're hot shit suddenly bankrupt.

[Captain Insano]

Numatu is really onto something here.


"Hey Venezuala this is the U.S., do me a favor and cancel those lucrative oil contracts you have with us."

then Venezuala is like "double-u, tee, eff?"

Game over.