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Ethnic slurs and racist speak. Should it be moderated?

Yes it should be moderated. Quit with the racism. Ban those that persist.
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Yes. It should be lightly moderated. Allow COMPLETELY free speech in a '200+ post members only' forum, hidden from guest view.
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No it shouldn't be moderated. Delete the rule 1 entry and allow free speech in all forums.
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Total votes : 50

Racism and NamelessTavern

Postby vonkaar » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:01 am

My opinion:

It took the worst natural disaster in our nations history to bring out all of these strong opinions. That sickens me. Months ago, people may have thought such racist things as, "James Byrd likely deserved it" or "I'm actually starting to wonder if they were meant to be a slave race," but few would have said it. Now - with thousands dead and hundreds of thousands more left homeless, you people are feeling liberal with your racism and your hate-mongering. Awesome. You were a few pussy loners with your opinions a year ago, and now you are a collective gang of pussies while people are dying. Mob mentality. Congrats.

That's how I feel.

That's how I would HOPE the members of NT would feel... but I might be wrong.

For the most part, NT's administration is a tyranny. When I want to add features or upgrade the backend, I simply do it. However, in regard to moderation, I usually leave it up to the members.

Rule # 1 states, "Do not use ethnic or racial slurs."

That's obviously been lightly enforced over the past few months. However, I'm at the point where I'm OFFENDED by a lot of the discussions lately. I would be embarrassed to invite a friend to NT; they might think me an admin of a Klan forum. Still, the moderation is mostly based on popular opinion.

So, I leave it to you. Please don't use this thread to discuss the merits OF my argument - I only want to know what you all think about the direction of the board. Hence, "board feedback." Should we, as moderators, crack down on all this racism? Should we allow it to continue? Give the administration a nice argument either way.

I'll leave it to popular vote.
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Postby Zanchief » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:15 am

I voted 2 because I don't think people should be censored necessarily, but things have gotten really out of hand.
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Postby mofish » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:18 am

How about 1 temporarily. Kinda like martial law til the foul stench of all this internet e-hatred starts to dissipate.
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Postby Insanityfair » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:33 am

I went 2 just because of the fact that it always has been lightly enforced. Though I'm wondering if that would even be a good idea...let someone have 200 posts before they realize what people here can really be like... :ugh:

I kind of like Mofish's idea, just to get it under control for a bit, because really, some of the opinions, while they are opinions, could have been said a lot better lately especially since some NTers were apart of the disaster, either being there themselves or having family/friends there.
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Postby Harrison » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:16 pm

Whiny bitches...

Now with that out of the way...

I know you all think of me as the fucking Grand Dragon of MA or some equally inane bullshit, but you're wrong.

Racism such as "I'm actually starting to wonder if they were meant to be a slave race," is ridiculous and needs to be moderated. (Although I doubt Ralf really feels that way...I think he said that quote)

Completely objective and factual information that people CONSIDER racist is completely under this radar, regardless of how you feel about it. Period.

I.E. Percentage of populations who have committed violent crime statistics. That is OBVIOUSLY racist :rolleyes:
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Postby Harrison » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:19 pm

But we all know with the pussy population of the forums what vote will win.

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Postby Phlegm » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:21 pm

not communism... more like totalitarian
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Postby vonkaar » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:26 pm

Harrison wrote:Gogo communism


roflz
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Postby Zanchief » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:27 pm

Phlegm wrote:not communism... more like totalitarian


vonkaar wrote:I'll leave it to popular vote.
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Re: Racism and NamelessTavern

Postby vonkaar » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:41 pm

vonkaar wrote:For the most part, NT's administration is a tyranny.
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Postby Harrison » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:41 pm

And why was my post deleted?
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Postby Zanchief » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:43 pm

One of these days Finawin is FINALLY gonna convince someone he's not a pussy.

That day, unfortunately for him, is not today.
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Postby Harrison » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:44 pm

Fortunately for me, I don't have to prove it to you. (Who I might add could possibly weigh as much as one of my legs some day if you try)
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Postby Zanchief » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:01 pm

Harrison wrote:Fortunately for me, I don't have to prove it to you.


I really wish that were true, Fin.
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Postby labbats » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:42 pm

I like pie
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Postby Phlegm » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:09 pm

labbats wrote:
I like pie


What kind of pie?
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Postby The Kizzy » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:12 pm

hairpie
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Harrison wrote:I'm not dead


Fucker never listens to me. That's it, I'm an atheist.
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Postby Menlaan » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:13 pm

I agree absolutely with Vonkaar's sentiment.

BTW, whoever predicted that Finawin would be the next Mindia was dead-on.

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Postby Stabfase » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:44 pm

Menlaan wrote:I agree absolutely with Vonkaar's sentiment.

BTW, whoever predicted that Finawin would be the next Mindia was dead-on.

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Postby Lyion » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:19 pm

Poll wrote:Yes. It should be lightly moderated. Allow COMPLETELY free speech in a '200+ post members only' forum, hidden from guest view.


Lightly Mod everything but EE & Cat Crew.
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Postby Trielelvan » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:08 pm

Insanityfair wrote:I went 2 just because of the fact that it always has been lightly enforced.


Ditto. It hasn't been that bad in the past, and it was tolerated to some degree before, so I see no reason why it should suddenly be subject to nazi law.

However, I do think some additional monitoring is necessary until this bullshit cools off a bit.
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Postby Tikker » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:42 pm

Well I actually don't care either way you want to do it



just find a way for it to be consistently enforced
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Postby Captain Insano » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:05 pm

Harrison wrote:Whiny bitches...

Now with that out of the way...

I know you all think of me as the fucking Grand Dragon of MA or some equally inane bullshit, but you're wrong.

Racism such as "I'm actually starting to wonder if they were meant to be a slave race," is ridiculous and needs to be moderated. (Although I doubt Ralf really feels that way...I think he said that quote)

Completely objective and factual information that people CONSIDER racist is completely under this radar, regardless of how you feel about it. Period.

I.E. Percentage of populations who have committed violent crime statistics. That is OBVIOUSLY racist :rolleyes:



I say what I want because this is the internet and not a godamn thing I ever post here will affect anyone. Half of what I say is to incite an E-Riot and drive conversation.

I voted option 3... The internet needs it's anti-christs and pornographer's to sustain life. It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it.

In all reality I'm not some card carrying member of the klan, nor do commit any hostility on any man/woman/child based upon race. But if you ask me if I'm sick to death of this one-sided "fuck whitey" reverse racism shit that is running rampant in this country I say hell the fuck yes.

If you ask me if I feel bad when I succeed through hard work where other's in need fail, I say hell the fuck no.

When it comes down to racism I don't believe in it at all, but right along side of that I don't believe in special treatment whatsoever. My opinion's don't coincide with the liberal media and the current majority in this country. Sue me.

Until otherwise informed I am going to continue being mean and spiteful and brash (also quite dashing I might add) if I think the topic deserves it.


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99 percent of you have never been there for any extended amount of time and have no idea what the people are really like. They don't deserve your sympathy. The lack of timely support our nation gave them is a testament to how fed up a lot of people are getting with various ethnic and minority groups absolutely atrocious behavior towards those that would help them and their fellow Americans.

I think this poor horse has been beat to death so I'm going to leave this topic be.
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Postby Guest » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:05 pm

99 percent of you have never been there for any extended amount of time and have no idea what the people are really like. They don't deserve your sympathy. The lack of timely support our nation gave them is a testament to how fed up a lot of people are getting with various ethnic and minority groups absolutely atrocious behavior towards those that would help them and their fellow Americans.


Couldn't have been said any better.

oh..and don't censor, please. :ugh:
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Postby leah » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:11 pm

Tikker wrote:Well I actually don't care either way you want to do it



just find a way for it to be consistently enforced


/agree

i'm with you vonkaar, i don't really appreciate all the slurs that get tossed around so freely.

people are entitled to their opinions, yes, but when stated in such negative, hateful, and hurtful ways, it's hard not to be at least a little offended...

people need to have a little decency towards each other, and if it takes some sort of executive action to enforce it, more power to you.
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