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by **brinstar** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:46 am

today we honor the brave explorers who showed up to someone else's place, robbed them, and gave them diseases!

america! fuck yeah!

by **Jay** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:52 am

Cong us.

by **Harrison** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:56 am

brinstar wrote:today we honor the brave explorers who showed up to someone else's place, robbed them, and gave them diseases!

america! fuck yeah!

It was the way of the world then, who gives a shit?

The past is the past.

by **brinstar** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:12 pm

yeah that hitler guy was just doing what any leader would've done, genocide was the way of the world then, who gives a shit about the millions of people he exterminated

and that hussein guy? he was just doing what any leader would do when he gassed thousands of kurds, it was the way of the world then, who gives a shit about the thousands of kurds

by **Jay** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:23 pm

Hey man, eat or be eaten.

by **Donnel** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:27 pm

Is that like... a lesbian come on or something?

by **Lueyen** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:29 pm

Gold, Glory, and God. That was the order of priority for the early explorers... not much has changed has it?

by **dammuzis** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:12 pm

actually alot has changed... i think most people are athiests now.. since 1850 they exterminate people because they are lower on the evolution ladder

by **Lueyen** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:52 pm

dammuzis wrote:actually alot has changed... i think most people are athiests now..

You are wrong. Athiests make up a very small percentage over all.

by **Milesaway** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:18 pm

"It was the way of the world then, who gives a shit?

The past is the past." --Harrison

That's fucking bullshit. There are a number of things that were "the way of the world then" that I am sure you don't believe in (slavery, blatant sexism toward women, etc.). You should really sensor yourself before you end up looking like the village idiot.

"Eat or be eaten." --Harrison

Another fine example of your intellect. Dude, seriously, there are message boards out there for fucking idiots. Advocating genocide, slavery, etc., get a life.

by **Milesaway** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:22 pm

This is in response to Harrison's next comment: Please do not waste your time or mine trying to justify some of the most ignorant statements I have ever read online. You are a disgrace to a progressive society. Your mother raised you better Mr. Harrison.

It is pretty clear to those of us with a soul on this message board that your insecurities run deep. You have a real sense of loss in your life. Please consider seeing a professional about your problems instead of polluting this message board. Please stop spreading hate and dumbassness.

by **Milesaway** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:24 pm

Oh, and one more, fuck you Mr. Harrison. Get your Hitler-lovin' ass out of your chair and do something worthwhile with your time. Spreading general fuckery online isn't a great use of your time.

by **Tuggan** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:26 pm

hooray, another finawin hater. we dont have enough of those already.

by **Kramer** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:26 pm

Nice work Harrison! some wacko's first three posts are flaming YOU!

Anyway, yeah, it is amazing that people even still celebrate this holiday...

really, he didn't discover anything, or have any other qualities that were even half way intreresting..... besides the whole genocide thing....

by **calgone** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:33 pm

lol harrison fuckin raged that dude

by **Harrison** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:24 pm

+1 point, another pissed off internet retard

Retard wrote:You should really sensor yourself before you end up looking like the village idiot.

Don't you dare attempt to use intellect as your basis for flaming.

Retard wrote:"Eat or be eaten." --Harrison

Another fine example of your intellect. Dude, seriously, there are message boards out there for fucking idiots. Advocating genocide, slavery, etc., get a life.

You were too busy wiping the blood out of your eyes that shot out of your vaginal canal to notice I never said any such thing. You can't even get identities down to which you're intending to yell at.

In closing, stop crying about past events no one cares about.

Oh yes, I am a hitler lover :rolleyes:

by **Arlos** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:33 pm

Famous quote, which Finawin obviously has never heard or never bothered to understand:

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

-Arlos

by **Harrison** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:36 pm

I've heard, and understand it fully.

I also don't whine about a fucking holiday, which is my point entirely.

History will repeat itself, it's inevitable. I am not going to be worried about it. You can bleed all over the place from your cunt, while I live my life peacefully not giving a shit what the rest of you do.

by **Kramer** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:37 pm

i bet harrison doesn't think we should pay reparations to slaves either....... scandalous......

you kids are a bunch of reactive... overreactive mawfocka's

by **Harrison** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:44 pm

Do you see the Irish crying for handouts?

They were treated far worse than 90% of the slaves.

How about the chinese who we essentially enslaved in the west? Are they crying for handouts?

The only people I believe are owed a fucking cent, are the Native Americans.

by **Goose_Man** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:51 pm

brinstar wrote:today we honor the brave explorers who showed up to someone else's place, robbed them, and gave them diseases!

america! fuck yeah!

Hey, shut the fuck up, pussy.

Metranon Metranome · by **Metranon** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:03 pm

today is thanksgiving in canada

i give thanks that i'm far away from my extended family cause they are morons and can't cook for shit either.

by **brinstar** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:41 pm

Harrison wrote:The only people I believe are owed a fucking cent, are the Native Americans.

you are the biggest retard on this board, bar none.

the national holiday today is in celebration of the mercenary who touched off the systematic extermination and rape of the native american peoples, which is what this whole thread is about.

and goosse, fuck right off

by **Jay** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:54 pm

Haha, I type something assholish and Finawin gets flamed for it. I love it.

by **Martrae** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:56 pm

Exploring Columbus
By Tom Purcell
Sunday, October 9, 2005

"Dad, why does America celebrate Columbus Day?"

"Well, Billy, in 1492, Christopher Columbus sailed from Europe to America and founded the very first settlement in the New World. His arrival marks the beginning of America as we know it."

"But didn't he discover America by accident, dad?"

"Columbus believed the Earth was a sphere. He thought he could reach the Far East by setting off on a westward course. Though he stumbled upon what is now the Bahamas by accident, he was still a great explorer and a great man, Billy."

"A great man, dad, or a racist oppressor?"

"Pardon me, son?"

"When Columbus came to America, he brought with him the greed of the white European males who subsequently colonized America for the dough. They fought and killed the Indigenous Peoples who were already here and took their land and their gold. Columbus eventually died a very rich man."

"Well, Billy, an unfortunate part of human history involves countries invading their neighbors to take control. This has happened in many parts of the world, including Europe, which has a long history of war. But remember that Indigenous Peoples were also prone to war and fighting to expand their control well before Europeans arrived."

"Well, Columbus is also responsible for many germs and diseases that Europeans brought to America, causing untold suffering and death among the people who were here before us."

"Have you been drinking too much caffeine lately, Billy?"

"America's history of environmental destruction can also be laid at Columbus' feet, dad. As soon as the Europeans colonized America's pristine lands, they cut down the trees and plowed up the fields. Can you say soil erosion, dad?"

"Son, did I ever tell you that you take after your mother's side?"

"And what about slavery? It was the Europeans who created a flourishing slave trade in America. They did it to develop the land cheaply, so they could make giant profits. Columbus even made slaves out of some of the Indigenous Peoples who attacked him and his men."

"Son, do you remember where your mother hid the bourbon?"

"I'll tell you another thing, dad. The only reason we even celebrate Columbus Day is because he was Italian, and the day is also a celebration of Italian heritage. When FDR made Columbus Day official in 1934, he did it not just because Columbus discovered the New World, but because Italian immigrants in America represented millions of votes."

"Look, Billy, there are a lot of ways to look at what Christopher Columbus symbolizes. You can focus on the negative attributes, and there are some, or you can do what America has been doing for many years now: focus on the positive."

"Positive, dad?"

"Sure, Billy. Columbus represents the spirit of exploration, the spirit of pushing forward into the great unknown to find greater and better things. This has always been the spirit of America, the land of innovation and new ideas."

"What kind of ideas, dad?"

"How about the ideas of freedom and self-government, Billy? After Columbus opened a gateway to the New World, other European countries established colonies here, too. Eventually, some amazing historical figures would evolve in North America. They would create and fight for a way of life that has proved to be extremely successful - their ideas are still spreading and changing the world for the better."

"Really, dad?"

"Yes, son. The concept of freedom has taken root so solidly in America that people are free to criticize or praise anything, including whether or not Christopher Columbus was a hero or an ogre, or whether or not Columbus Day should still be celebrated in America. Now, do you have any other questions about history?"

"Sure, dad. Was Benjamin Franklin really a predatory male chauvinist womanizer?"

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