Iran Leader Calls for Israel's Destruction

[Ouchyfish]

Iran Leader Calls for Israel's Destruction By NASSER KARIMI,
Associated Press Writer

TEHRAN, Iran - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared Wednesday that Israel is a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the map" — fiery words that Washington said underscores its concern over Iran's nuclear program.

Ahmadinejad's speech to thousands of students at a "World without Zionism" conference set a hard-line foreign policy course sharply at odds with that of his moderate predecessor, echoing the sentiments of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of Iran's Islamic revolution.

The United States said Ahmadinejad's remarks show that Washington's fears about Iran's nuclear program are accurate.

"I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the regime in Iran," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters in Washington. "It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear intentions."

Ahmadinejad also condemned Iran's neighbors which seek to break new ground in their relations with Israel. "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury," state-run television quoted him as saying.

Relations between Israel and several Persian Gulf states have been thawing amid Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in September. Bahrain announced in September it was ending a decades-old law banning trade ties with Israel. In October, Qatar said it was donating $6 million to help build a soccer stadium for a mixed Arab-Jewish team, the first such financial assistance by an Arab state for any town inside Israel.

Israel has been at the forefront of nations calling for an end to Iran's nuclear program, which the United States and many others in the West say is aimed at acquiring weapons of mass destruction. Iran insists the program is for generating electricity.

Referring to Palestinian suicide bomb attacks in Israel, Ahmadinejad said: "there is no doubt that the new wave in Palestine will soon wipe off this disgraceful blot from the face of the Islamic world."

Ahmadinejad's speech came hours before a Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up in the Israeli town of Hadera, killing five people. Iran aids several militant Palestinian groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, with support and training through proxies among Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas.

"Ahmadinejad has clearly declared the doctrine of his government," said Mohammad Sadeq Hosseini, an expert on Middle Eastern affairs. "He is returning Iran to the revolutionary goals it was pursuing in the 1980s."

Reacting to the Iranian president's speech, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said Ahmadinejad and Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar "speak openly about destroying the Jewish state ... and it appears the problem with these extremists is that they followed through on their violent declarations with violent actions."

Ebrahim Yazdi, a former Iranian foreign minister, said Ahmadinejad's remarks harmed Iran.

"Such comments provoke the international community against us. It's not to Iran's interests at all. It's harmful to Iran to make such a statement," he said.

In Madrid, Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos summoned Iran's ambassador to protest Ahmadinejad's comments. Moratinos said he rejected the remarks in the strongest possible terms.

French Foreign Minister Jean-Baptiste Mattei also condemned the remarks "with the utmost firmness."

Ahmadinejad became president in August after winning elections two months earlier. He replaced Mohammad Khatami, a reformist who advocated international dialogue and tried to improve relations with the West.

Iran announced earlier this year that it had fully developed solid fuel technology for missiles, a major breakthrough that increases their accuracy. The Shahab-3, with a range of 810 miles to more than 1,200 miles, is capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to Israel and U.S. forces in the Middle East.

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Iran prez: "World, cover your ears for a sec-I have to appease these fucking nuts."

[calgone]

did not read

[Langston]

Old news. Like 40 years old news. The people's names change, but the situation never does.

[Captain Insano]

40 years? Like 2006 years...


I was laughing last night as I watched that Kingdom of Heaven movie because if you removed all the Europeans in the movie the middle east and it's people still look the same a thousand years later.

It's high time to eliminate the muslim problem with powerful thermonuclear weapons.

[Langston]

Well, if you want to be technical about it, you could say the last 5000 years... or whenever the fuck it was that God "told" the Israelites to kill every man, woman, child, and beast in the land of Canaa (or however you spell it) and then missed 3 tribes that have grown up to be those evil Arab folkzes.

I might have a few particular details wrong... but these guys have hated each other long before Christ ever learned to masturbate.

[Tikker]

40 years? Like 2006 years...


I was laughing last night as I watched that Kingdom of Heaven movie because if you removed all the Europeans in the movie the middle east and it's people still look the same a thousand years later.

It's high time to eliminate the muslim problem with powerful thermonuclear weapons.

the problem isn't muslims


it's anyone that believes in a god of any sort

[Phlegm]

40 years? Like 2006 years...


I was laughing last night as I watched that Kingdom of Heaven movie because if you removed all the Europeans in the movie the middle east and it's people still look the same a thousand years later.

It's high time to eliminate the muslim problem with powerful thermonuclear weapons.

the problem isn't muslims


it's anyone that believes in a god of any sort

Doesnt the Christians, Jewish, and Muslims worship the same God?

[Tikker]

Technically, yes but I'm sure a bible thumper of each religion will be by to scream and yell



but yeah, go back far enough, and all 3 are offshoots of 1 religion

the muslims have their prophet who wasn't recognized by the Jews (mohammed)

the christians had their messiah that the jews didn't recognize (Jesus)

and the Jews are still waiting for their messiah (Vonkaar)

[Ouchyfish]

No. The muslims worship explosions.

[Tikker]

Yeah, cause christians and jews never blow anything or anyone up ever

[xaoshaen]

Doesnt the Christians, Jewish, and Muslims worship the same God?

No, though they share common monotheistic traits.

[Tikker]

Doesnt the Christians, Jewish, and Muslims worship the same God?

No, though they share common monotheistic traits.

They are all offshoots of 1 original religion tho, no?

[Donnel]

Jews and Christians do, though most Jews would disagree with me.

[xaoshaen]

Doesnt the Christians, Jewish, and Muslims worship the same God?

No, though they share common monotheistic traits.

They are all offshoots of 1 original religion tho, no?

That would be a difficult claim to make given the temporal gaps involved.

[Phlegm]

Did a little googling and found this:

From the Quran(Suran 29:46), it states Muslims, Jews and Christians worship the same God. So at least the Muslims think that they are worshiping the same God.

029.046
YUSUFALI: And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)."
PICKTHAL: And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our Allah and your Allah is One, and unto Him we surrender.
SHAKIR: And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our Allah and your Allah is One, and to Him do we submit.

[Langston]

MY Allah is different. He wears a dashing little fez and has a pet monkey.

[xaoshaen]

Did a little googling and found this:

From the Quran(Suran 29:46), it states Muslims, Jews and Christians worship the same God. So at least the Muslims think that they are worshiping the same God.

029.046
YUSUFALI: And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)."
PICKTHAL: And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our Allah and your Allah is One, and unto Him we surrender.
SHAKIR: And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our Allah and your Allah is One, and to Him do we submit.

As long as you discount fundamental tenets of Christianity, like say, the triune God. The Quran basically states that God is Allah who has been misperceived by Christians, but that doesn't actually mean people of both faiths are worshipping the same god.

[Markarado]

Yes, all three religions worship the same god but in different ways.

[Captain Insano]

Religion would be so much more interesting is jesus was a cyborg with pulse lazer beam eyes and breathed fire.

[Ouchyfish]

Religion would be so much more interesting is jesus was a cyborg with pulse lazer beam eyes and breathed fire.

[xaoshaen]

Yes, all three religions worship the same god but in different ways.

Funny how one god can be so schizophrenic. I mean, he cares what Jews eat, but not Christians. He'll damn a Jew for eternity for not performing the appropriate rites, but a Christian gets a free pass via repentance and the doctrine of salvation by grace. A Muslim commits heresy by worshipping Jesus, but a Christian gains salvation by doing the exact same things. "By their actions ye shall know them", and by their actions these gods can't be represented by one figure.

[10sun]

Yes, all three religions worship the same god but in different ways.

Funny how one god can be so schizophrenic. I mean, he cares what Jews eat, but not Christians. He'll damn a Jew for eternity for not performing the appropriate rites, but a Christian gets a free pass via repentance and the doctrine of salvation by grace. A Muslim commits heresy by worshipping Jesus, but a Christian gains salvation by doing the exact same things. "By their actions ye shall know them", and by their actions these gods can't be represented by one figure.

Ever read a book and get an entirely different idea of what happened than your friends?

What about a book that had more chapters added onto the end that contradicts earlier chapters?

-Adam

[xaoshaen]

Yes, all three religions worship the same god but in different ways.

Funny how one god can be so schizophrenic. I mean, he cares what Jews eat, but not Christians. He'll damn a Jew for eternity for not performing the appropriate rites, but a Christian gets a free pass via repentance and the doctrine of salvation by grace. A Muslim commits heresy by worshipping Jesus, but a Christian gains salvation by doing the exact same things. "By their actions ye shall know them", and by their actions these gods can't be represented by one figure.

Ever read a book and get an entirely different idea of what happened than your friends?

What about a book that had more chapters added onto the end that contradicts earlier chapters?

-Adam

The problem is, you're not talking about a single book. You're talking about three different books, each with superficial similarities, but each containing explicit, mutually exclusive instructions. Ever tried to use Java syntax in a C++ compiler?

[10sun]

What about a book that had more chapters added onto the end that contradicts earlier chapters?

[xaoshaen]

What about a book that had more chapters added onto the end that contradicts earlier chapters?

Even comparing Judaism to Christianity, you're not talking about a single book, or an identical deity. There's a fundamental schism between YHWH and a triune god. "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father but by me."