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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051107/ap_ ... ioting_111


France Sees Worst Night of Violence Yet
By ANGELA DOLAND, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 55 minutes ago



PARIS - France's national police chief Monday said overnight riots sent a "shock wave" across France, as youths injured three dozen officers and burned more than 1,400 vehicles in the worst night of violence since the unrest began.

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Apparent copycat attacks spread to other European cities for the first time, with five cars torched outside Brussels' main train station, police in the Belgian capital said.

Australia, Austria and Britain became the latest countries to advise their citizens to exercise care in France, joining the United States and Russia in warning tourists to stay away from violence-hit areas.

Clashes around France left 36 police injured, and vandals burned 1,408 vehicles overnight Sunday-Monday, setting a new high for overnight arson and violence since the rioting started Oct. 27, national police chief Michel Gaudin said.

The mayhem started as an outburst of anger in suburban Paris housing projects and has fanned out nationwide among disaffected youths, mostly of Muslim or African origin, to become France's worst civil unrest in over a decade.

Attacks overnight were reported in 274 towns, and police made 395 arrests, Gaudin said.

"This spread, with a sort of shock wave spreading across the country, shows up in the number of towns affected," Gaudin said, noting that the violence appeared to be sliding away from its flash point in the Parisian suburbs and worsening elsewhere.

It was the first time police were injured by weapons fire amid signs that rioters were deliberately seeking out clashes with police, officials said.

Among the injured police, 10 were injured by youths firing fine-grain birdshot in a late night clash in the southern Paris suburb of Grigny, national police spokesman Patrick Hamon said. Two were hospitalized but their lives were not in danger. One was wounded in the neck, the other in the legs.

The unrest began Oct. 27 in the low-income Paris suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois, after the deaths of two teenagers of Mauritanian and Tunisian origin. The youths were accidentally electrocuted as they hid from police in a power substation. They apparently thought they were being chased.

There have been 4,700 cars burned in France since the rioting began, and 1,200 suspects have been detained at least temporarily, Gaudin said.

The growing violence is forcing France to confront long-simmering anger in its suburbs, where many Africans and their French-born children live on society's margins, struggling with high unemployment, racial discrimination and despair — fertile terrain for crime of all sorts as well as for Muslim extremists offering frustrated youths a way out.

France, with some 5 million Muslims, has the largest Islamic population in Western Europe.

Meanwhile, the government faced growing criticism for its inability to stop the violence, despite massive police deployment and continued calls for calm.

President Jacques Chirac promised stern punishment for those behind the attacks, making his first public address Sunday since the riots started.

"The law must have the last word," Chirac said after a security meeting with top ministers. France is determined "to be stronger than those who want to sow violence or fear, and they will be arrested, judged and punished."

France's biggest Muslim fundamentalist organization, the Union for Islamic Organizations of France, issued a fatwa, or religious decree. It forbade all those "who seek divine grace from taking part in any action that blindly strikes private or public property or can harm others."

Arsonists burned two schools and a bus in the central city of Saint-Etienne and its suburbs, and two people were injured in the bus attack. Churches were set ablaze in northern Lens and southern Sete, he said. The extent of damage was not immediately clear.

In Colombes in suburban Paris, youths pelted rocks at a bus, sending a 13-month-old child to the hospital with a head injury, Hamon said, while a daycare center was burned in Saint-Maurice, another Paris suburb.

Much of the youths' anger has focused on law-and-order Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who inflamed passions by referring to troublemakers as "scum."

In Strasbourg, youths stole a car and rammed it into a housing project, setting the vehicle and the building on fire.

"We'll stop when Sarkozy steps down," said the defiant 17-year-old driver of the car, who gave his name only as Murat. Under arrest, he and several others awaited a ride to the police station as smoke poured from the windows of the housing project behind them.

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Ya know I cant say I have too much sympathy for these guys.
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The mayhem started as an outburst of anger in suburban Paris housing projects and has fanned out nationwide among disaffected youths, mostly of Muslim or African origin, to become France's worst civil unrest in over a decade.



Hmmmmmmm
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just shoot all the black guys

problem solved
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The unrest began Oct. 27 in the low-income Paris suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois, after the deaths of two teenagers of Mauritanian and Tunisian origin. The youths were accidentally electrocuted as they hid from police in a power substation. They apparently thought they were being chased


So basically, these people are rioting because two retards got electrocuted for being dumbshits.
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The horrible BO that must be going on there....
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we should carpet bomb them with right guard.

What this report does not say is the following...

The two punks were running from the cops after being found near a sight that had been busted into by the police. The Police found a warehouse full of explosives and detonators.
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kaharthemad wrote:we should carpet bomb them with right guard.

What this report does not say is the following...

The two punks were running from the cops after being found near a sight that had been busted into by the police. The Police found a warehouse full of explosives and detonators.


Maybe they were going take out the Eiffel Towers with all the explosives.
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Are they looting also? or just rioting.
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Not sure I got most of the info about the warehouse and stuff from the little i have heard on the news and on CNN/Fox/MSNBC

They did not mention it.
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I wish terrorists would attack france.

Then we could sit around and do nothing for a change.
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Goose_Man wrote:
The mayhem started as an outburst of anger in suburban Paris housing projects and has fanned out nationwide among disaffected youths, mostly of Muslim or African origin, to become France's worst civil unrest in over a decade.



Hmmmmmmm



Oh my god black people committing crime?! Thats something new and original. :biggrin2:
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captain_insano wrote:
Goose_Man wrote:
The mayhem started as an outburst of anger in suburban Paris housing projects and has fanned out nationwide among disaffected youths, mostly of Muslim or African origin, to become France's worst civil unrest in over a decade.



Hmmmmmmm



Oh my god black people committing crime?! Thats something new and original. :biggrin2:


Yeah, but these French blacks are not as good as the US ones... they are not looting. They just dont have enough experience to know that when riots happen... time to go shopping.
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captain_insano wrote:I wish terrorists would attack france.


The French would surrenders and Osama Bin Laden will be the new emperor of France.
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captain_insano wrote:I wish terrorists would attack france.

Then we could sit around and do nothing for a change.


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captain_insano wrote:I wish terrorists would attack france.

Then we could sit around and do nothing for a change.


Kinda like the 1st half of WW2?
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The French leader is doing a bang-up job of stopping the violence. He's holding meetings and looking for ways to appease those rioting. Yup, roll over France....the rioters might even use vaseline if you're nice enough to them.
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It's only a mater of time before France takes decisive action to end the rioting... and surunders.
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Tikker wrote:
captain_insano wrote:I wish terrorists would attack france.

Then we could sit around and do nothing for a change.


Kinda like the 1st half of WW2?



haha exactly!

Man metronon's pic was laffo!

Civil unrest in france is fucking awesome. That country needs to taken over by a greater power like Yugoslavia or something and put out of their pathetic misery. I know I speak for the rest of the world when I say I'm pretty tired of watching them be huge pussies.
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captain_insano wrote:
Tikker wrote:
captain_insano wrote:I wish terrorists would attack france.

Then we could sit around and do nothing for a change.


Kinda like the 1st half of WW2?



haha exactly!

Man metronon's pic was laffo!

Civil unrest in france is fucking awesome. That country needs to taken over by a greater power like Yugoslavia


Yes but then you know the U.N. will be ghey and help them.......
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DESX wrote:Yes but then you know the U.N. will be ghey and help them.......


Hmm so when is the last time the U.N. did anything involving a show of force, be it military assault, peace keeping operations... basically anything that involved weaponry without a super power commiting military forces?

So if the U.N. does decide to help out what if any super power is going to help out? I doubt the US is going to be happy to jump in there, who then China?
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Denmark. Oh yes, Denmark is a super power.
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DESX wrote:
captain_insano wrote:
Tikker wrote:
captain_insano wrote:I wish terrorists would attack france.

Then we could sit around and do nothing for a change.


Kinda like the 1st half of WW2?



haha exactly!

Man metronon's pic was laffo!

Civil unrest in france is fucking awesome. That country needs to taken over by a greater power like Yugoslavia




Yes but then you know the U.N. will be ghey and help them.......


With what army? hell most of the Army comes from the US. I think alot of soldiers would bulk at helping them. Frankly you think there is a problem with recruitment now? Tell them we are going to war to help France.
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kaharthemad wrote:
DESX wrote:
captain_insano wrote:
Tikker wrote:
captain_insano wrote:I wish terrorists would attack france.

Then we could sit around and do nothing for a change.


Kinda like the 1st half of WW2?



haha exactly!

Man metronon's pic was laffo!

Civil unrest in france is fucking awesome. That country needs to taken over by a greater power like Yugoslavia




Yes but then you know the U.N. will be ghey and help them.......


With what army? hell most of the Army comes from the US. I think alot of soldiers would bulk at helping them. Frankly you think there is a problem with recruitment now? Tell them we are going to war to help France.


You don't think much of your military if you think they don't respect the chain of command.
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no they dont think much of France. Im saying that they will go but Morale will not be as good as it is in Iraq. most military believe France is nothing more than a shit hole that should have been nuked during world war 2. As far as recruitment I doubt there will be many people signing on the dotted line if they hear the word France.

Amazingly enough alot of the 'Chain of Command' considers assitance to be Quid pro Quo. Frankly France has done nothing for us, continues to treat the US like a giant boil, and is the loudest piece of shit on what is the Coalition of Anti-America, aka The United Nations.

I think the Congress would be hard pressed to get the votes needed to 'assist' this place. Alot of soldiers reupped for the war in Iraq, (amazing that the new media seems to skip this part) I doubt you would get the same commitment from them in a France war.

What I am trying to get at here Zan, is because of administration views in France and the fact they have not once assisted in any venture since the Revolutionary War the US would be hard pressed to generate even the 60 Percent plus backing that the current US administration had going into the war in Iraq.

Morale is key to any combat situation. had the troops morale not been where it is at with the Iraq war we would be looking at alot more deaths then what we currently have. If you dont believe me...consider the morale of the Vietnam war.
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